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Beware of donor Sperm from Fairfax cryobank
We have been trying to have a baby for years and finally made the difficult decision to use a sperm bank. I chose Fairfax based on their very specific warranty on quality of sperm. I spent over $500+ per vial and each time, the quality was WAY below their "warranty". When I complained and asked to be reimbursed for the money I spent on the vials. They dragged their feet and finally reimbursed me pennies on the dollar. I gave them multiple chances to make it right and even had to switch to another donor to get better quality and that donor sperm was below their warranty level as well. There is obviously no quality control at Fairfax and when they are called on it, they refuse to stand behind their warranty. I've wasted so much money (doctor's fees, shipping fees) not to mention taking fertility drugs, monitoring my cycle and taking time off work just to get in there and have the doctor tell me that once the sperm was thawed it was practically useless. Don't use them, they have made the last 6 months of my life miserable. BTW, they still have both those sperm donors on their website....very unethical. Has anyone else had this experience?
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Not with Fairfax but with Xytex. Crappy numbers on two cycles and they don't stand behind them either. "not our problem." Just wanted to pipe in here and warn everyone against Xytex too.
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Me--breastfeeding, homebirthing, mama to one miracle, TTC #2 married to a wonderful man me: 25, normal him:26, severe poor sperm morphology, 0-1% normal Our history: Baby #1 Dx: February 2006 HSG: tubes all clear March 2006 March 30, 2006: m/c: April 2006IVF: August 2006 August 2006: May 2007 Our sweet son is born! I am such a proud mama! Baby #2 TTC for 9 cycles naturally all IUI #1, November 2008 IUI #2 with Clomid, December 2008 IUI #3 with Clomid, January 2009 IUI #4 with donor sperm IUI #5 with Clomid and donor sperm in progress |
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Wow. I had my first IUI with one their donors. However, the doctor said that the sperm was pretty good as far as motility and things of that nature, but evil kaneva just left the building yesterday!!! So obviously it didn't work. Im ordering my 2nd vial Wednesday b/c I start testing on Thursday and im sure to be ovulating by "Sunday." What do I need to do? Now im confused...blahh, blah, blah!! This is frustrating, and im not on any medications b/c I dont have any medical problems, and he thinks im too young and shouldn't have any problems conceiving.
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May I ask what type of specimen you used? I just had my ER today and we are using an IVF specimen from Fairfax. We picked a donor that had known pregnancies...but the two vials only had 11 million (total I believe) prewash and then 3 million post wash. That seems so low! Fairfax's policy is 5 million per vial, but I wasn't sure if that is pre or post wash. This is the first time we've used Fairfax. Previously we used California Cryobank with a known donor; though we didn't get pregnant we never seemed to have any problems with them.
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Me-33 DH-34--SCO Married-10 yrs TTC-9.5 yrs 2 Rat Terriers-10 and 10.5 years 10 failed IUIs 10/08: IVF #1 MDL--BFN 02/09: FET #1 BFN 04/09: IVF#2 MDL--BFN 06/09: verified reaction (pimply rash) to progesterone 08/09: IVF#3 MDL-- 4w4d10-11/09: IVF #4 Luteal Lupron 10/13: Start Lupron 10/27: Baseline 10/31: Start Stims 11/12: ER 11/15: ET 11/26 (11/27): Beta |
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I thought I'd chime in here and add my experience with Xytex.
On April 18, 2009 DH and I had our 1st IUI using a donor thru Xytex. We paid $645 for the unwashed sample and shipping. Before the IUI, the attending nurse said that the post wash was 6 million, but at that time I was told that many patients have less than 5 million. I thought it would be alright. Then later that night, I logged on and found out thru Xytex website that they have a 15 million pre-wash guarantee. My pre-wash was 10 million and 6 million post wash. I called and complained. They had me give my fertility clinic a form for the andarology dept to fill out and a few days later I got an answer from Xytex. They not only were giving me my next sample for free, but were offering free shipping AND the best count. I don't know what my numbers will be for this second IUI, but hope they're really good this time. DH and I are doing back-to-back IUI's this cycle. I ended up paying $485 for 2 vials. That it works.I'm sorry you're having problems with your bank. I know first hand how it feels. Having spent all that money for the cycle to find out that the failure could have been on the bank all along. No one will ever know. In our case, Xytex is the only bank we will use. They offer adult and childhood photos, something that was very important to DH and me.
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ME 31-Irregular cycles, otherwise OK DH 38- Perfect, but no swimmers-cancer survivor Married to my best friend since 12-05-1998 TTC #1 for over 9 years 2 Himalayan fur-children ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Zero fertility coverage due to DH's diagnosis 2 IUI's April & May '09 both #1 IVF w/ICSI ER 9/12/09 got 21 eggies, 14 mature, 13 fertilized ET 9/17/09 we transferred 2 (grade 1) blasts Two blasts made it to freeze, hold on frosties 9-30-09 1st beta (13dp5dt) 405 10-26-09 D&C @ 8weeks FET sometime in Jan/Feb 2010
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We froze my husband's at Fairfax before he was deployed overseas and the counts were horrible. When we froze at my RE's, they were much, much better so i do think it was Fairfax and agree they stink!
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Me: 38 - DH: 40 1 natural cycle IUI - 4 clomid IUI cycles (frozen sperm that didn't thaw well) - 2 IUIs w/ injectbles (one frozen, one fresh) - 1st IVF - Feb.-March 2008 Agonist Cycle 2 weeks Lupron Added 150 Gonal-F & 75 Menopur 8 eggs retrieved 8 fetilized with ICSI 4 no good, 4 8-cells transferred but 3 PoorCC quality, 1 PoorBB ![]() 5/25/09 - 2nd IVF Cycle (antagonist) 150 Gonal-F, 75 Menopur 12 eggs retrieved, 10 fertilized 8 very fragmented, not worth transferring 2 FairCC embryos transferred 6/8/09 Developed mild OSHH 6/19/09 Beta 1566/23/09 Beta 817 6/25/09 Beta 1505 7/8/09 saw heartbeat! 7/13 2nd US -HB 167 7/28 - 3rd US - saw movement! ![]() |
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I'm a Fairfax Client
I agree that all of these sperm banks need to be audited.
Never mind the cost of the "product" itself. The cost of a cycle is astronomical and the cost of fertility meds is no picnic either. To go through all of that to find a count that's less than desirable is frightening, to say the least! I chose a donor at Fairfax who is extremely popular - I didn't realize it until after the fact. The ONLY good thing about it (if there can be a "good" thing) is that I know he's proven (over and over and over and over again) and that the sperm quality must have been good. Good luck to you all.
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Jane (single) 41, low ovarian reserve, MTHFR FSH (highest) 12.8 (Yikes!) Liv & 2 cats (the most awesome fur kids on the planet!)3/23/08 - IVF#1 CD3: Gonal F (450 iu/day), 15 cc low dose HCG 4/2/08 - IVF cancelled, converted to IUI ![]() 4/3 & 4/4 - IUI's at 7am 4/13/08 - ![]() 4/18/08 - of course!!! ![]() -FSH tested - 22. Eggs suck! ![]() -Donor Embryos - July 08 - chemical pregnancy ![]() -Oct 08 - on CCRM waiting list for DE in-house match -Mar 09 - matched, FINALLY! -ER - 6/22, ET 6/27 ![]() -Transferred one perfect blast, 14 blasts vitrified ![]() -7/6 - Beta #1 - 167 -7/8 - Beta #2 - 344 -7/23 - u/s - one bean (better be as I had an eSET), measures 6w1d ![]() -8/4 - u/s - measures 8w0d -8/14 - sick/fever, bleeding, it's over. d&c -Blood clotting panel reveals MTHFR - must supplement with high folic acid and baby aspirin. -11/18 - hysteroscopy finds 2 polyps, must remove - health, strength and successful transfer January 2010
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I go in for my ET today, so I am going to ask the RE for more information about the quality of the specimen we got from Fairfax. I know that they won't do any sort of refund if you get pregnant, but that if you are interested in a refund you only have 5 business days to contact them. I'm hoping for beautiful embies and that two weeks from now all my worrying about DS will have been for nothing.
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Me-33 DH-34--SCO Married-10 yrs TTC-9.5 yrs 2 Rat Terriers-10 and 10.5 years 10 failed IUIs 10/08: IVF #1 MDL--BFN 02/09: FET #1 BFN 04/09: IVF#2 MDL--BFN 06/09: verified reaction (pimply rash) to progesterone 08/09: IVF#3 MDL-- 4w4d10-11/09: IVF #4 Luteal Lupron 10/13: Start Lupron 10/27: Baseline 10/31: Start Stims 11/12: ER 11/15: ET 11/26 (11/27): Beta |
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Message for Janehill
Sorry to hi-jack your posts ladies, hope you don't mind. Sorry to all who have had trouble with donor sperm. I wish you all the very best on luck on your ttc journeys
Janehill: noticed your single and trying to conceive. Just to let you know that we have a forum for singles trying to conceive if you'd like to join us. If you click on "relationships & taking care of you" and then clinck on "singles trying to conceive: you will find us. We have a number of ladies who are all trying different methods, IUI, IVF, donor Embryo's and we have a few ladies who have just had babies. Pop along and see what you think. Hope to see you there
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Susan 35 Ectopic 2005 Miscarriage 2006 Miscarriage 8 November 2008 Single having IUID 1st IVF 10/10/2009 Prostap injection 21/10/2009 baseline scan 22/10/2009 Start Menopur 225mg 27/10/2009 Day 6 scan 30/10/2009 Day 9 scan 31/10/2009 Trigger 02/11/2009 Egg collection 12 eggs, 7 fertilized 05/11/2009 Egg transfer |
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Hi,
sorry to hear you had trouble with them. How did you know the numbers were bad? I don't quite understand. Edited- oh- I reread it and realized that since you were doing iui your doctor was able to check it. How would one know at home?! I want to talk about my situation but I don't want to hijak your thread- but regarding this thing- We are beginning cycle #3 of Donor insem (at home)- I am currently menstruating. So- our first try we used TSBC- and the donor had ridiculously high counts- 89 million post thaw! But they ran out of unwashed the very week I was ordering and we ended up trying with 3 vials of washed- which they said we could use for ICI. Got bfn.Then last cycle we switched to "Cryogenics Lab". At that point I was just trying to find an acceptable unwashed donor- and that was SO hard to find. TSBC, who I like in a lot of ways, had VERY FEW unwashed. S0- we bought 4 vials- and tried 2- and bfn. But I think we inseminated too early ( 6hrs and 20 hrs past +opk but I think I ovulated like 48 hrs past +opk) I was too scared to ask the count #'s! I thought- well, if they have unwashed smaples it must be okay. I don't know- sohuld I ask? I wasnt to just assume they are high counts. We have 2 vials already purchased so we are planning on trying again in 3 weeks when I ovulate. Last edited by Naomi35 : 05-13-2009 at 08:03 PM. |
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I am glad to hear that the Sperm Bank of California in San Diego is good, that is who we are going with. I was kinda nervous reading these posts, I hope everyone got their money back!
Question: How can a Sperm Bank "guarentee" a number when they dont know the numbers they will be recieving? It seems as though they have "run out" of the high numbers, and have tried to pass off the lower numbers to people they thought "wouldnt notice".... what a sham.
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April, 28 TTC 7.5 years, Current "children" Roxy, Border Collie 6 yo Dixie, Basset Hound 4 yo Nick, 29, cancer survivorIVF #1 July 2009 7/23 1st BETA 130 7/25 2nd BETA 280 43.4 hr increase8/10 1st U/S TWINS!! Baby 1 HB 123 Baby2 HB 121 Released to OB!8/18 2nd U/S Baby 1 HB 147 Baby 2 HB 158!!! 9/10 3rd U/S Both babies look ok, bleeding that night went to ER 9/15 4th U/S F/U from ER visit... Sub chorionic bleed, placed on bedrest 9/22 5th U/S F/U on bleeding, almost gone one more week of bedrest, BABY B IS A BOY!!!! 10/06 6th U/S (not scheduled!) BABY A IS A BOY!!!! 11/03 BH, placed on 1/2 days at work 11/10 20 week ultrasound, Baby B is now a GIRL!!! "What does the Lord require of thee? To do justly, to love kindly, and to walk humbly with thy God" Micah 6:8![]() ![]()
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