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09-05-2008, 05:18 PM
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Is endometriosis a hopeless cause?
Hi ladies. I am turning to all of you for your thoughts and experiences. I went in for my 2nd IUI on Wed and my RE said he wants to try a LAP next, while my hubby's sp ct recovers from the hot softball season. He suspects i have some endo b/c we've been trying approx 2 years and never been prego. We have tested pretty much everything else. What i would like to know is how possible is it to get prego w/ endo after a LAP? Anyone have any experiences to share? Should i be hopeful? Should i prepare myself for a life without children? I have no idea what to expect...
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TTC 2.5 yrs DH-Slightly low SC, otherwise perfect Me-moderate endo, removed Oct 08 April 08- US -Normal May 08- HSG - All clear June 08- post coital- Normal July-Sept 08- clomid w/Trigger & IUI  Oct 08- Mod endo remvd, TTC naturally- Nov-Jan 08-clomid, trigger, double IUI- Feb- 1st cycle injectibles(Menopur), trigger & IUI  
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09-06-2008, 08:41 AM
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There are alot of women who have gotten pregnant with endo. And they say the most fertile time for an endo girl is after a lap. It hasn't worked for me, but there are several on here that it has worked for. Good luck!
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 Stephanie 27 DH 27 TTC-actively 3 years, not-not trying (hehe) 5 years before that. HSG-10/05 normal. LAP-10/05 endo (Stage III or IV), fibroids & polyps in uterus, and a cyst on left ovary-all removed. Pacemaker-08/06 LAP/Hysteroscopy-03/08 endo removed, tubes flushed, D & C. No fibroids, polyps, or cysts!
Dh wants to stay child-free for the long haul. I do not. On a break that I hope isn't permanent. 07/09-After 2-3 months of irregular cycles diagnosed with PCOS. Now 3 months of provera to regulate. www.myspace.com/stephaniehorst http://stephaniehorst.blogspot.com/
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09-06-2008, 08:48 AM
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I was diagnosed with stage II endo. My RE did a lap and removed it. We were prepared to begin IUI, but ended up with a BFP the next month on our own. It is possible to get pregnant w/endo! Steph is right, my RE said I would be most fertile 6-9 months after the lap. We didn't realize how fertile I would be! Even the doctor was shocked. Best of luck and feel free to pm with any questions about the lap.
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Me: 36 - stage 2 endo DH: 37 - perfect TTC 2 years 10/24/06 +hpt 11/29/06 missed m/c-D & C  10/25/07 first visit to RE 10/30/07 HSG-tubes are clear 3/4/08 lap-found and removed stage 2 endo 5/08-IUI w/clomid and injectables. Didn't need to---> 4/26/08- on hpt!!! Natural Cycle4/28/08-1st Beta 15 dpo-516!  4/30/08-2nd Beta 17 dpo-1286! Grow baby grow! 5/14/08-1st U/S-one perfect heartbeat!  5/21/08-2nd U/S-baby measuring on schedule! 7/28/08-Level II ultrasound-It's a GIRL!!! TTC #2 since July '09 - naturally for now. 
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09-06-2008, 09:19 AM
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I have endometriosis and recently learned we are pregnant after trying for 18 months (2 IVF cycles). There is hope.
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Heather  38 Me 36 DH 1st IVF cycle 04/28 ER Collected 8 eggs 04/29 4 eggs fertilized via ICSI 05/02 5dET- 05/14  2nd IVF Cycle 08/12 ER 12 eggs 08/17 5dET- Put Back 3-- 1 Blast, 1 Compacting and 1 Morula 08/25 3 +HPT- 7dp5dt, 8dp5dt & 9dp5dt Minimal Symptoms 08/29 1st BETA- 1,003 (12p5dt) 08/31 2nd BETA- 2099 (14p5dt) 09/18 U/S We are expecting TWINS!!! 09/23 1st OB Appt- 2 Strong HBs 10/21 2nd OB Appt- Baby A Jumping, Baby B Sleeping 11/25 2nd Tri U/S Baby A = Boy Baby B = Girl 12/02 3rd OB Appt- Saw baby boy sucking his thumb! 12/18 20 Week OB Appt- Hospitalized for the remainder of the pregnancy- Incompetent Cervix, 3 cm dilated, contracting and Baby A's sac was funneling. My OB put in a cerclage. Thank goodness I made it to 26 weeks! Most of the docs didn't think I'd make it that far! 01/31/2009 Babies were born at 26 weeks: Carson 1 pound 15 ounces Kendall 1 pound 14 ounces 04/27/2009 Kendall is home. Carson is still in the NICU.
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09-06-2008, 10:09 AM
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I have endo and needed IVF and it was successful on the second try. A lot of ladies do get pregnant after lap surgery to remove the endo though I just wasn't one of the fortunate ones. Good luck to you cathy
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09-07-2008, 07:32 PM
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Thanks Stephanie, Lovingwife, Heather, and Cathy. I appreciate you sharing your stories and hope with me.
I am not well educated about endo and i dont totally understand how it prevents preg. I had a clear HSG and several normal US and i wonder if you all did as well, prior to finding endo. I was thinking since my HSG and multiple US did not detect any problems IF i have endo it is most likely causing me implantation prob, but it sounds like several of you have discovered tubal prob and this is why you turned to IVF. Did those of you in that boat also have a clear HSG and normal US that did not detect these tubal blockages and cysts? Thanks again for sharing your stories. It is SO helpful in this journey. I am so happy for those of you who have gone on to conceive. For those of you who are still trying and/or pursuing adoption- much luck to you. I admire your strength and commitment. Thank you!
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TTC 2.5 yrs DH-Slightly low SC, otherwise perfect Me-moderate endo, removed Oct 08 April 08- US -Normal May 08- HSG - All clear June 08- post coital- Normal July-Sept 08- clomid w/Trigger & IUI Oct 08- Mod endo remvd, TTC naturally- Nov-Jan 08-clomid, trigger, double IUI- Feb- 1st cycle injectibles(Menopur), trigger & IUI
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09-09-2008, 09:32 AM
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Endometriosis often will not show up on a HSG or U/S. I would ask for a Hystocoscope (?sp?)at the same time as the Lap so they can get a full look inside the uterus to check. Endo can prevent pregnancy in many ways, it can stop implantation if it is located in the uterus. It can cover the ovaries and prevent the egg from traveling to the tubes. It can cause blockages in the tubes(even partial ones that will not show up on a HSG)
In my case I had adhesions covering my left ovary that pulled it away form the tubes so any time I o’d on that side the egg would not make it to the fallopian tube. This was not picked up with U/S or HSG.
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Me 34 - PCOS DH 39 - Ct(110 ml), but still mot and morp issues  TTC 4+ years 2 year wait to see RE than RE takes 5 months off! 10/07-6/08- 6 rounds Clomid = BFN RE May 08 = waiting for DH appt. at to see if sperm will respond properly to “fallopian tube environment” – July 08 Passed! 5/08 Testing for Lymphoma- Negative!!! I just have Sarcoidosis. 8/08 Hysteroscopy and Lap removed polyp from uterus and adhesions to ovary and fallopian tubes, adhesions not previously diagnosed. IUI 1&2 -BFN On to IVF 1/09 1/26 - ER -22 eggs only 9 fertilized  1/31 - ET & 4 snow babys  2/6 HPT 2/10 Beta-256 2/12 Beta-568 3/2 First U/S - One Baby! 3 dogs & 3 cats  
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09-09-2008, 09:53 AM
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Yes, if you check out my signature you will see that I did have an HSG that was all clear. But endo was suspected and thus the lap where it was found. The only way to accurately diagnose endo is through a lap because it really doesn't show up any other way. I've been through 2 laps with different experiences each time, so if you have any questions don't hesitate to ask!
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Stephanie 27 DH 27 TTC-actively 3 years, not-not trying (hehe) 5 years before that. HSG-10/05 normal. LAP-10/05 endo (Stage III or IV), fibroids & polyps in uterus, and a cyst on left ovary-all removed. Pacemaker-08/06 LAP/Hysteroscopy-03/08 endo removed, tubes flushed, D & C. No fibroids, polyps, or cysts!
Dh wants to stay child-free for the long haul. I do not. On a break that I hope isn't permanent. 07/09-After 2-3 months of irregular cycles diagnosed with PCOS. Now 3 months of provera to regulate. www.myspace.com/stephaniehorst http://stephaniehorst.blogspot.com/
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09-09-2008, 10:05 AM
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My HSG and u/s were perfectly normal. My RE did notice a tender spot on my uterus when he did an internal exam. This is what led him to belive I had endo. I had it on my uterus, ovaries and bladder. So, I think it could have been implantation issues or the egg not releasing or a combo of the 2. Luckily, my tubes weren't damaged and we didn't have to resort to IVF. If you have any other questions about endo or the lap feel free to pm me.
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Me: 36 - stage 2 endo DH: 37 - perfect TTC 2 years 10/24/06 +hpt 11/29/06 missed m/c-D & C 10/25/07 first visit to RE 10/30/07 HSG-tubes are clear 3/4/08 lap-found and removed stage 2 endo 5/08-IUI w/clomid and injectables. Didn't need to---> 4/26/08- on hpt!!! Natural Cycle4/28/08-1st Beta 15 dpo-516! 4/30/08-2nd Beta 17 dpo-1286! Grow baby grow! 5/14/08-1st U/S-one perfect heartbeat! 5/21/08-2nd U/S-baby measuring on schedule! 7/28/08-Level II ultrasound-It's a GIRL!!! TTC #2 since July '09 - naturally for now.
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09-10-2008, 06:36 PM
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Thanks again for your responses, ladies. After hearing your scenarios and explanations i am quite sure it is prob endo. When AF shows up I am going to sched the lap. Should be done in less than a month now and hopefully i will be on my way to an answer. : )
Thanks again. You are all so sweet to take the time to help others.
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TTC 2.5 yrs DH-Slightly low SC, otherwise perfect Me-moderate endo, removed Oct 08 April 08- US -Normal May 08- HSG - All clear June 08- post coital- Normal July-Sept 08- clomid w/Trigger & IUI Oct 08- Mod endo remvd, TTC naturally- Nov-Jan 08-clomid, trigger, double IUI- Feb- 1st cycle injectibles(Menopur), trigger & IUI
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09-17-2008, 05:17 PM
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Hello all! I just had a lap on Aug. 22nd and am very happy that I did b/c my doc discovered that I had stage I endo. 2 spots on my left ovary, and 1 spot on my right. Before this I was diagnosed as unexplained infertility, all our tests came back normal, and I had no symptoms other than IF. We finally got to ttc this past weekend for the first time since surgery, so I am very hopeful that the surgery fixed our problem. Best wishes to all, and hopefully soon we'll all get our
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Me: 26 DH: 28  Married June 4th 2005 1st IUI March- Failed 2nd IUI April with 2.5mg Femara- Failed 3rd IUI May with 2.5mg Femara- Failed Diagnostic laparoscopy 8/22/08 1st IVF 2/16- Began BCP 3/6- Began Lupron 3/21- Stims 150 IU Gonal-F 3/24- Switched meds to 150 Repronex 3/28- Trigger Shot 10,000 units HcG 3/30- ER 15 eggs 11 fertilized 4/4- ET 2 pretty good blasts Beta #1= 154 4/13Beta #2= 409 4/151st u/s 4/30- 1 little baby! 122 bpm 2nd u/s 5/14 Still 1!! 170 bpm May 28th- First appt. with OBGYN
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09-18-2008, 09:45 AM
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Amber, I just wanted to say that I have severe endo and I just delivered the most beautiful healthy little girls!!! THere is hope, don't give up!!! Good luck to you and DH..
 
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me (40) severe endometriosis, secondary IF DH (40) perfect DS (12) and Twin DDs (born 6/28/08) many IUIs from 2002-04 2 IVFs w/ICSI in 2004 1 FET in 2004 IUI 10/8/06- , taking breakIVF #3 ICSI/AH 7/07 IVF#4-Patch Antagonist Protocol w/accupuncture 11/18-ET-transferred 5 embies/8 and 9 cell high quality!! 11/29- BETA #1 308!!!12/3-Beta #2 1428!!! 12/18-u/s #1- IT'S TWINS!!!! 12/28-u/s #2- Both babies are great. HBs in the 180's!!! No more PIO, released to OB!! 1/10-u/s # 3 for spotting-Both babies are good, they both waived "Hi"!! 1/14-first OB visit-all good 1/24-second OB visit-all good/heard the beautiful heartbeats!! 1/28-NT scan-both babies within normal range! 3/24-gender scan-2 little girls!!!!! 6/13-Baby A wt. 4.2 lbs/Baby B wt. 4.4 lbs!!!! 6/28-08GENESIS AND GISELLE HAVE ARRIVED!!!!   
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09-18-2008, 10:10 AM
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My cousin and her twin sister both have severe endo all over the place. They had laps and although didn't have the miraculous BFP naturally after the lap surgery, they now have 4 children between them (cousin - 2 yr old girl from IUI and 35w prego with a boy and cousin's twin sister has 2 yr old twin girls from first IVF). So endo doesn't have to be the end all to your fertility struggles - it's totally possible to get preg. Good luck!!
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Kristen Me 35/DH 40 TTC 4 yrs DH dx - 6% morphology & 29% DNA Fragmentation in sperm My dx - low egg quality/FSH 12 on Day 10 6 months clomid, 1 IUI: BFNs #1 IVF Fresh May '06: anembryonic preg/blighted ovum #2 IVF Fresh Oct '06: chem preg #3 IVF FET Dec '06: BFN #4 IVF Fresh Jan '07: BFN #5 IVF Donor Egg Cycle Donor ER Feb 17 - 15 eggs, 14 mature, 10 fertilized through ICSI ET Feb 22 - Day 5 transferred 1 blast - froze 4 blasts 1st beta 13dpER = 181 2nd beta 15dpER = 474 www.babybeat.com - love my doppler! IT'S A GIRL!!! Due Date: November 8 Delivered: October 25 at 7:45pm, 7lb11oz, 19in Linnea Mae Simon is here! 
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09-18-2008, 10:15 AM
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pinylove: thanks for sharing your story you give me hope...I'm doing DE IVF due to my years of Stage IV endo and have recently been worried even doing DE I wont get pregnant because of the bad endo I had it was removed 2 times on ovaries, bladder, bowel, tubes, you name it....and they suspect I have some adeno in the wall of the uterus too but Im hoping by doing DE and transferring 2-3 blasts on day 5 at least 1 will take.
Thanks again!
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Melanie Me: 31 (POF, high FSH, Stage IV endo) DH: 31 (healthy)  Jackson (American bulldog) Shadow (cat)2005 & 2007 Stage IV endo surgeries 6 + yrs of treatment with my eggs all 2/3 ER donor gives us 9 eggs-all 9 fertilize 2/8 ET 1 early blast and 1 late stage morula 2/16 8dp5dt am darker bfp line digital says PREGNANT! 2/18 1st BETA= 66 2/20 2nd BETA= 147 thank you God 2/24 3rd BETA = 1178.5 2/27 4th BETA = 3817 3/3 5th BETA 12,890 3/9 6w6d 1 baby & 1 hb at 124 bpm! 3/24 ultrasound hb at 194 bpm! 4/2 & 4/8 us hb was 180 bpm 4/29 OB appt heard heartbeat with the doppler! Joined the Pink Team We are having a girl 6/23 Fetal Echocardiogram showed a perfect heart! 7/15 very sick covering OB said it was food poisioning 7/17 had a grand mal seizure, diagnosed with Eclampsia, and HELLP syndrome delivered Brianna at 25 weeks 3 days. She weighed 1 lb 2 ounces. www.briannamariemiracle.blogspot.com
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