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Old 06-06-2009, 08:33 PM
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Wow Mery... I can't imagine.... I would be a wreck if that happened to me! What a miracle though!
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IVF #1
Lupron: Started on 10/30/07
11/13: Starting Gonal-F and continuing Lupron
11/22: Trigger
11:24: ER ( 19 eggs retrieved!!!) 17 Mature, 15 fertilized with ICSI
11/27: ET (Single Embryo transfer, despite me and DH wanting to place two embryos back!) Hospital policy!
12/06: 1st Beta 50 (along with the diagnosis of OHSS!!)
12/07: 2nd Beta 79
12/09: 3rd Beta 139
12/12: 4th Beta 550
12/14: 5th Beta 1500
3/11:It's a GIRL!!!!
8/8/08: DD Delivered! 6lbs 14 oz.

FET #1
3/4/09 Started Lupron
3/23/09 Started Estrogen
4/12/09 ET 2 embryos.
4/18/09 6dp3dt HPT
4/23/09 11dp3dt HPT
4/24/09 Beta #1: 213(yeah... it's official! I'm !!!)
4/27/09 Beta #2: 935
5/13/09 u/s two sacs, one hb!
5/20/09 u/s two sacs, one hb!!! A singleton!!
7/31/09 anatomy scan. It's a GIRL!
Scheduled c-section 12/23/09
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Old 06-07-2009, 05:49 AM
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hi....hey, if you ever read other threads go to the march ivf thread...there is a girl on there, jennifer, that went for an u/s at 8 weeks and they heard no hb's. she went for a d & c on monday, and when they suctioned, nothing came out...so they did the vaginal u/s...showed nothing...then, they did a tummy u/s and her twins were ALIVE and well. her uterus got partitioned because she has a fibroid the size of a grapefruit, so it pushed her twins back and that is why you could not see it on the vag u/s. if that is not a miracle, i do not know what is! wow, what an emotional rollercoaster for her and dh!!

I read that story too....Such a wild rollercoaster for her...I still get goose bumps when I think about it...Miracles can happen!!!!
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Clomid 01/07 Ectopic.
Clomid 01/08 Chemical.
IVF 06/08 23 fert. transfered 3 TRIPLETS
10/17/08 Angel Raiden Landon at 22 w due to IC
11/12/08 delivered Ryker London and Gwyneth Bella at 25w 5d
11/22/08 Ryker passed away.
12/01/08 Gwyn passed away.
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HPT 5/2
1st BETA 5/5 -- 464
2nd BETA 5/11-- 3859
U/S 6/2 HB 170!
U/S 6/24 NT scan perfect
Cerclage 7/8 Cervix short Strict bedrest.
U/S 7/15 It's a GIRL!!!
U/S 7/29 Level 2 Perfect
U/S 8/12 perfect
U/S 8/27 perfect
U/S 9/9 Megyn is 1.3 lbs
U/S 9/23 blowing bubbles
U/S 10/8 Megyn is 2 lbs 5 oz
U/S 10/20 She is growing strong
U/S 11/4 3lbs 12 oz
U/S 11/10 3D
U/S 11/18 fFN~Negative
C-section scheduled for Dec 18th
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Old 06-07-2009, 12:59 PM
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Hey guys, Sorry it's been so long since I've posted, but I have had a rough week. I've pretty much come home every night and gone to bed. The morning sickness hasn't been too horrible, but enough to make me uncomfortable. I had a migraine on Thursday and Friday. I had my doctor's appt on Friday, so I found out what I could take, tylenol wasn't even touching the migraine. She told me I could take a combination of Tylenol and advil. It worked and I felt better on Saturday.

We've had a roller coaster of a week. We got an offer on our house in Texas. We countered the offer and he accepted, so we are now in contract to sell our house. I hope everything works out right and we no longer have this burden to worry about. YIPEE! with the house sold I can stay home with the baby!!!!!

My poor hubby has had to step up so much this last week. Today alone, he has to do laundry, dishes, and cook dinner. I feel so bad, but not much I can do about it.

I'm glad you were able to get your garden planted Northeast girl! I had some bulbs that needed planting and it took forever for me to feel good enough to plant them. We have enjoyed peaking to see how they are growing. I can't wait for the pretty flowers.

Hopeful I'm sorry you were dizzy.

Mery - Wow you guys are getting a lot done. I hope we get to do some of the rennovations we want/need to do before baby is born, but it will all depend on how things go with getting the house sold. I can't afford it while we still own it.

So we found out on Friday I have high blood pressure, but we don't know if I had high blood pressure because of the headache or the headaches because of high blood pressure. I have to go back in next week and have it checked again. I haven't every had high blood pressure before, except rare checks. My blood pressure during the procedures was all normal. Anyway, I hope everyone is doing good. I hope I have a better week coming up. I keep counting down to the 2nd trimester, hopefully, I will be better.
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4-16-09 first HPT very faint line
4-20-09 1st beta 61
4-22-09 2nd beta 135
4-27-09 3rd beta 987
5-01-09 4th beta 3101
5-07-09 1st u/s 1 tiny beautiful baby growing! HB 131
05-21-09 2nd u/s Little Bundle doing GREAT, HB 169
6-5-09 1st Ob appt

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Old 06-07-2009, 07:30 PM
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cathi - you are soooo right...there are miracles going on all around us!

holding - i know how that is, just working and coming home to sleep, i do that pretty much every night. some weeks are harder than other...i'm glad you got through it. your dh is a champ, mine does the same. he has to, otherwise things would be in shambles around here...thank God for dh...he is my angel!! i will for you that things go smoothly with your house sale!! that's great news! i think you bp was high cuz of your migraine.....they will keep an eye on it though..that is a good thing!

i had a busy day today..had some m/s..uggh! i just don't think i ate enough earlier in the day. do any of you get stabbing pains in your bb's. on and off today, it feels like knives stabbing me...they kill! TONIGHT IS LAST PIO SHOT...IN LIKE 15 MINUTES...I AM GOING TO CRY WITH JOY!! i cannot believe they are over...WOW!!!
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Furkitties - Lynus, Kramer, Jan

06 - 07' - 3 failed IUI's
took a 2 year break

Transfer 4/8 - 9 cell, 7 cell, 5 cell

Beta - 4/20 - = Beta = 71 (12dp3dt)
Beta #2 4/22 - Beta = 177
Beta #3 4/24 - Beta = 407
Beta #4 4/26 - Beta = 985

Final U/S with RE on 6/15 baby measuring at 12w3days
NT Scan - They said they are almost positive it's a boy!!! Blood and U/S were normal.
Anatomy Scan - 7/31/09 -- IT'S A BOY!!!

Due Date = 12/26/09

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Old 06-08-2009, 05:56 AM
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Good Morning Everyone!!

I hope you all had wonderful week-ends!! It was so beautiful here! But I think I got the stomach virus that was going around the office....so yesterday I did not do much but rest...ugg!! I was ready up on the dizziness and it is normal for 2nd tri...so I guess we are close and could be why I was dizzy. I have my n/t scan today and a full appointment with the high risk doc. I am still a little nervous...hubby cannot go so my mom is going...that should be interesting...she askes a lot of questions...I think she also wants to see the babay as much as I do!!

Holding - I can relate on the HBP....I too get headaches from time to time and I am not sure if it's my BP or not...I also think the stress of the whole process does not help.

Mery - I am so happy for you!! Congrats!!

Have a great day!!
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Beta #3 April 22 Beta 2,578
Beta #4 April 29 Beta 18,154
U/S#1 May 9 One little bean with a great heart beat God is Great
U/S#2 May15 One bean wiggling around Released to OB
May 26th - First OB Appointment
June 8th - NT Scan looking good
July 22 Anatomy Scan - It's a Boy!
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Old 06-08-2009, 11:14 AM
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hopeful - good luck today at your appointment..i'm glad your mom is going with you..i'm sure everything will be just fine. that stinks you were sick yesterday, but at least you were able to rest..that is always nice! remember, you are in good hands! let us know how your appointment went!

well, it's monday..blah! i am soooo starving today, i swear, i am a bottomless pit. i am craving hash browns sooooooooooo bad..i just had some, but i want more! hope everyone has a great day today!
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DH: 36 - low count
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Furdoggies - Roxy and Max
Furkitties - Lynus, Kramer, Jan

06 - 07' - 3 failed IUI's
took a 2 year break

Transfer 4/8 - 9 cell, 7 cell, 5 cell

Beta - 4/20 - = Beta = 71 (12dp3dt)
Beta #2 4/22 - Beta = 177
Beta #3 4/24 - Beta = 407
Beta #4 4/26 - Beta = 985

Final U/S with RE on 6/15 baby measuring at 12w3days
NT Scan - They said they are almost positive it's a boy!!! Blood and U/S were normal.
Anatomy Scan - 7/31/09 -- IT'S A BOY!!!

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Old 06-08-2009, 02:41 PM
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Hi Mery - just got back...what a long appointment. I went to the genetic counselor too, so...at the start I had a 1 in 81 chance of DS...the N/T was .9 so that brought me to 1 in 150...I just have to wait for blood and they will give me the final number. The little guy would not cooperate at all..they had me walk around for a few minutes...he flipped over and decided to let us see him properly...I keep saying him...but we still don't know LOL! My BP was still a little high so I will be on 4x rather than 3x and have to go back next week!

Have a great day!!!
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Beta #4 April 29 Beta 18,154
U/S#1 May 9 One little bean with a great heart beat God is Great
U/S#2 May15 One bean wiggling around Released to OB
May 26th - First OB Appointment
June 8th - NT Scan looking good
July 22 Anatomy Scan - It's a Boy!
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Old 06-09-2009, 08:24 AM
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Hi! I hope everyone is doing well. I was feeling blah all weekend, but I did manage to get my brows waxed (I almost punched the lady it hurt so bad and took forever) and I gave myself a pedicure, so I don't feel so gross!

Hopeful-Glad your appt. went well yesterday. It sounds like your little one is very active!

Mery- I have had the stabbing pains in my bbs too. What in the world? Maybe it's just from them growing. I saw my best friend the other day and she couldn't believe how big they were!

Holding-congrats on selling your house!!! I hope you feel better soon!


Northeast- I hope you got your pool all set up! That sounds so nice...I wish we had one!

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Mar. 29 Lupron Start
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5/12/09: Beta#2 1369
5/14/09: Beta#3 3580
5/27/09: U/S showed 3 heartbeats! Baby A: 124 bpm, Baby B: 123 bpm Baby C:131 bpm...baby A and B identical
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Old 06-09-2009, 08:51 AM
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Hi Martha - sorry you are feeling so blah! Did you get the sleep bra...it works wonders!!


Here is a pic from the NT Scan
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Beta #2 April 15 Beta 77
Beta #3 April 22 Beta 2,578
Beta #4 April 29 Beta 18,154
U/S#1 May 9 One little bean with a great heart beat God is Great
U/S#2 May15 One bean wiggling around Released to OB
May 26th - First OB Appointment
June 8th - NT Scan looking good
July 22 Anatomy Scan - It's a Boy!
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Old 06-09-2009, 09:42 AM
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Happy Tuesday everyone!

I'm sorry I haven't been on much but this is my last full week at work before summer vacation so it's been a bit hectic!

martha - you poor thing! i went for a brazilian wax a few weeks ago.. imagine that! haha

hopeful - keep us updated on the NT results!

mery - you are done with PIO!!!!!!! woohoo!

holding - i hope everything is okay with your BP... and sounds like a lot of things are going on for you!

AFM,
I made this little collage... what do you think?

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BETA #1: 8dp5dt = 143!
BETA #2: 10dp5dt = 332
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4/29 #1 (6w): 2 sacs, no HBs yet!
4/30 #2 (6w+1): spotting. saw 2 HBs! B's sac measuring smaller than A's.
5/4 #3 (6w+5): heavy bleeding over wknd. A's HB 136, B's 113. B's sac still very small - possibly non-viable.
5/8 #4 (7w+2): Baby A grew 4mm, HB 138. Baby B grew 3 mm, HB 134. Still told to expect to lose Baby B since his sac is so small.
5/13 #5 (8w): Baby A grew - has arm & leg buds and even moved a little! HB was 186. Baby B grew also - HB was 164. Still told we will lose him.
5/20 #6 (9w): Baby A wiggling around. Baby B - no HB.
5/26 #7 (9w+6): Baby A is perfect and wiggly!

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Old 06-09-2009, 10:08 AM
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WOW looking at you growing!! Looks great!!
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Beta #2 April 15 Beta 77
Beta #3 April 22 Beta 2,578
Beta #4 April 29 Beta 18,154
U/S#1 May 9 One little bean with a great heart beat God is Great
U/S#2 May15 One bean wiggling around Released to OB
May 26th - First OB Appointment
June 8th - NT Scan looking good
July 22 Anatomy Scan - It's a Boy!
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Old 06-09-2009, 11:23 AM
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hopeful - i am glad everything went well at your doc's appt. what a beautiful pic of your little buga's face..how incredible!! it's funny because i keep saying him too! i feel like it is a boy! did they say how long you would have to wait for your blood work to come back???

martha - i am glad you are doing good! yeah..bb's do kill sometimes..and yes, boy are they getting bigger!!

maybe - how cute your tummy is! mine is bigger i think, but you are skinnier than me..LOL!! so, do you get the whole summer off for summer vacation?? if so, you are one lucky gal! and yes..isn't it wonderful not to have PIO anymore!!!

afm - well, went for second to last u/s this morning with RE and our little sweetie is measuring at 12weeks o days!! HOLY MOLY! i though it was only going to be like 11w3days! does anyone know if this fluctuates or why i am measuring bigger??? he was so cute today, moving all over the place, his legs were kicking like crazy and his body was wiggling and head was moving...i cried today..i just cannot believe that i am growing a baby inside of me...it's still so surreal to me!!
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DH: 36 - low count
TTC on and off for approx 8 years
Furdoggies - Roxy and Max
Furkitties - Lynus, Kramer, Jan

06 - 07' - 3 failed IUI's
took a 2 year break

Transfer 4/8 - 9 cell, 7 cell, 5 cell

Beta - 4/20 - = Beta = 71 (12dp3dt)
Beta #2 4/22 - Beta = 177
Beta #3 4/24 - Beta = 407
Beta #4 4/26 - Beta = 985

Final U/S with RE on 6/15 baby measuring at 12w3days
NT Scan - They said they are almost positive it's a boy!!! Blood and U/S were normal.
Anatomy Scan - 7/31/09 -- IT'S A BOY!!!

Due Date = 12/26/09

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Old 06-09-2009, 12:40 PM
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Mery - Great picture!! Congrats on graduating! I am measuring a few days ahead too...not sure what it means. I have another OB appointment and HR appointment next Wednesday and I will be asking more questions...I'm gonna add that to my list. I should have all the results then too...maybe sooner...Everyone says ooo "he" looks like you LOL!

I have an another appointment today with the nephrologist...the kidney doc for the BP issue...I'm so tired of being poked at..but I guess I have no choice!
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Beta #3 April 22 Beta 2,578
Beta #4 April 29 Beta 18,154
U/S#1 May 9 One little bean with a great heart beat God is Great
U/S#2 May15 One bean wiggling around Released to OB
May 26th - First OB Appointment
June 8th - NT Scan looking good
July 22 Anatomy Scan - It's a Boy!
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Old 06-09-2009, 01:31 PM
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hopeful - thanx!! i know it's hard being stuck all the time and all of these appointments!! it's so great that you have doctors monitoring everything, you are in good hands!! that's good they give you the results soon. i go to my regular ob this friday, so i too have some questions to ask! it's a good idea to write them down!!
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DH: 36 - low count
TTC on and off for approx 8 years
Furdoggies - Roxy and Max
Furkitties - Lynus, Kramer, Jan

06 - 07' - 3 failed IUI's
took a 2 year break

Transfer 4/8 - 9 cell, 7 cell, 5 cell

Beta - 4/20 - = Beta = 71 (12dp3dt)
Beta #2 4/22 - Beta = 177
Beta #3 4/24 - Beta = 407
Beta #4 4/26 - Beta = 985

Final U/S with RE on 6/15 baby measuring at 12w3days
NT Scan - They said they are almost positive it's a boy!!! Blood and U/S were normal.
Anatomy Scan - 7/31/09 -- IT'S A BOY!!!

Due Date = 12/26/09

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Old 06-09-2009, 02:47 PM
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Hello Everyone....

I have been MIA lately... I am just busy with everything... I am glad to say, that for the past few days I have been feeling GREAT! I can't believe it. No more m/s, I have a lot of energy and in general feel better than I have felt in a few months (I think since March when I started Lupron!). I am so happy I can't describe it. I hope that everything is ok with the baby, because it was such a sudden change. One night I went to bed with m/s and then next day I was perfectly normal and energetic. I even managed to bake! I guess, miracles do happen

Maybe: You are def. showing. You are thin, so it's easier to see. I think I am showing as well, but there is a little bit more fat over the tummy, so it's not that obvious

Martha: This pregnancy, I had no boob issues. Yes they are getting bigger, but I have no pain. Last time around they were killing me, but this time, it's normal.

Mery: I am so happy that you graduated to the OB. But, trust me, you're spoiled now with all those u/s... The regular OB does not do that many u/s! Congrats. I don't know about the fluctuations in size though. With my first one, I was measuring a little bigger as well, but she was born average size! Who knows. Also, congrats on being done with the PIOs. That's a wonderful day that was!!! I am finishing all drugs tomorrow. I can't wait!

Hopeful: How did they give you all those numbers for the NT scanning? I don't remember at all what I did with my previous pregnancy! Good luck with your BP monitoring!
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Lupron: Started on 10/30/07
11/13: Starting Gonal-F and continuing Lupron
11/22: Trigger
11:24: ER ( 19 eggs retrieved!!!) 17 Mature, 15 fertilized with ICSI
11/27: ET (Single Embryo transfer, despite me and DH wanting to place two embryos back!) Hospital policy!
12/06: 1st Beta 50 (along with the diagnosis of OHSS!!)
12/07: 2nd Beta 79
12/09: 3rd Beta 139
12/12: 4th Beta 550
12/14: 5th Beta 1500
3/11:It's a GIRL!!!!
8/8/08: DD Delivered! 6lbs 14 oz.

FET #1
3/4/09 Started Lupron
3/23/09 Started Estrogen
4/12/09 ET 2 embryos.
4/18/09 6dp3dt HPT
4/23/09 11dp3dt HPT
4/24/09 Beta #1: 213(yeah... it's official! I'm !!!)
4/27/09 Beta #2: 935
5/13/09 u/s two sacs, one hb!
5/20/09 u/s two sacs, one hb!!! A singleton!!
7/31/09 anatomy scan. It's a GIRL!
Scheduled c-section 12/23/09
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