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4 Embies - How Many Should We Thaw?
Our first two rounds of IVF ended in biochemical pregnancies. We have 4 embies left from the last egg retrieval, so in August we will be trying FET for the first time.
We are thinking of thawing 2 for transfer so that we have 2 left if the first FET doesn't work. I think our RE is leaning toward wanting to thaw all 4 and transfer everything that makes it through the thaw (hopefully they all will). She says about 90% of embies make it through the thawing process. Any suggestions? Thaw 2 and 2 or all 4 at once?
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Me: 37 DH: 44 1 Yellow Lab, Sophie 1 Fox Terrier, Floie 2008 Tried Clomid 3 times, no pregnancies Nov 2008 IUI #1 Dec 2008 IUI #2 March 2009 IVF#1 9 eggs retrieved 9 fertilized 3 transferred, none frozen 1st Beta 10 2nd Beta 15 3rd Beta 0 Biochemical Pregnancy July 2009 IVF #2 15 eggs retrieved 13 fertilized 2 transferred, 4 frozen 1st Beta (9dp5dt) = 8 2nd Beta (11dp5dt) = 38 3rd Beta (14dp5dt) = 123 4th Beta (18dp5dt) = 32 Biochemical Pregnancy 08/28/09 FET #1 2 snowbabies transferred + hpt on 9/2 - wow that's early! 09/08/2009 First Beta 274 ![]() 09/10/09 Second Beta 892 09/22/09 First OB ultrasound - saw heartbeat!! 10/09/09 Third ultrasound - size and heartbeat are perfect. 10/21/2009 Graduated to OBGYN. Heard heartbeat on doppler maching. 160bpm!! |
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Thanks, missthuyn.
On a different note - what is Lupron and Dexamethasone? Why are you taking them? I ask because I wonder if there is anything we should be doing before moving into the FET.
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Me: 37 DH: 44 1 Yellow Lab, Sophie 1 Fox Terrier, Floie 2008 Tried Clomid 3 times, no pregnancies Nov 2008 IUI #1 Dec 2008 IUI #2 March 2009 IVF#1 9 eggs retrieved 9 fertilized 3 transferred, none frozen 1st Beta 10 2nd Beta 15 3rd Beta 0 Biochemical Pregnancy July 2009 IVF #2 15 eggs retrieved 13 fertilized 2 transferred, 4 frozen 1st Beta (9dp5dt) = 8 2nd Beta (11dp5dt) = 38 3rd Beta (14dp5dt) = 123 4th Beta (18dp5dt) = 32 Biochemical Pregnancy 08/28/09 FET #1 2 snowbabies transferred + hpt on 9/2 - wow that's early! 09/08/2009 First Beta 274 ![]() 09/10/09 Second Beta 892 09/22/09 First OB ultrasound - saw heartbeat!! 10/09/09 Third ultrasound - size and heartbeat are perfect. 10/21/2009 Graduated to OBGYN. Heard heartbeat on doppler maching. 160bpm!! |
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Did you not take them for your IVF cycle? I was told (and this is off the top of my head) that Lupron is to keep my ovaries quiet. It keeps me from ovulating. Dexamethasone is an immunosuppressor. It is to keep my body from rejecting anything foreign (like the embryos). I think there's something else it does, but I don't know for sure.
Anyways, I hate both of these drugs the most! I prefer stim meds and PIO over these two. LOL. The side effects makes me sick and keeps me up at night. I've heard of people doing natural FET, no meds. My RE doesnt' reccommend it because then I would have to time ovulation and stuff before ET.
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Me (Judy): 25 years old. Normal. Husband: 25 years old. Perfectly healthy. English Bulldog name Lotus: 1.5 year old IVF #1 July 2009 Lupron Protocol ET 3 embies (3 8-cell, Grade 1) FET August 2009 Medicated FET Protocol ET 4 embies (1 compacting 10 cell, 2-8 cell, 1-7 cell embies) Switch RE: Love my new clinic! IVF #2 October 2009 Antagonist Protocol: Gonal-f, Menopur, Ganirelix, HCG, Prometrium, Vivelle Patches 10/22 - ER (9 eggs retrieved, All 9 eggs fertilized on their own!) 10/25 ET - PUPOx2 (2 8-cell Grade 1), 1 frozen 11/2 - 8dp3dt - faint 11/3 - 9dp3dt - light 11/4 - 10dp3dt - light/med 11/5 - 11dp3dt - BETA #1 - 215 11/7 - 13dp3dt - BETA #2 - 595 11/23 - First ultrasound w/ RE 12/1 - First prenatal appt w/ OB
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I don't think I took any of those - just the stimulating hormones and then estrogen patches and progesterone inserts.
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Me: 37 DH: 44 1 Yellow Lab, Sophie 1 Fox Terrier, Floie 2008 Tried Clomid 3 times, no pregnancies Nov 2008 IUI #1 Dec 2008 IUI #2 March 2009 IVF#1 9 eggs retrieved 9 fertilized 3 transferred, none frozen 1st Beta 10 2nd Beta 15 3rd Beta 0 Biochemical Pregnancy July 2009 IVF #2 15 eggs retrieved 13 fertilized 2 transferred, 4 frozen 1st Beta (9dp5dt) = 8 2nd Beta (11dp5dt) = 38 3rd Beta (14dp5dt) = 123 4th Beta (18dp5dt) = 32 Biochemical Pregnancy 08/28/09 FET #1 2 snowbabies transferred + hpt on 9/2 - wow that's early! 09/08/2009 First Beta 274 ![]() 09/10/09 Second Beta 892 09/22/09 First OB ultrasound - saw heartbeat!! 10/09/09 Third ultrasound - size and heartbeat are perfect. 10/21/2009 Graduated to OBGYN. Heard heartbeat on doppler maching. 160bpm!! |
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My personal statistics for this cycle
Hello,
I just wanted to share my experience with you on this frozen cycle. I have had two chemical pregancies (one fresh, one frozen). This cycle my RE wanted to do "poor man PGD". He basically wanted to take the best looking ones that made it to 5 day. We thawed 6, 5 survived the thaw. Only two made it passed day 4. They ended up transferring those two. It is a very personal decision, but thats how it worked out for me. I am also on a natural FET. I was still monitored the first half of the cycle, but no meds. Since the transfer, I am on Lovenox, estradial and progesterone. So I guess its only partially "natural."
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Me - 34 Unexplained, MTHFR DH -37 good motility, little low 4 failed IUIs IVF #1 March 2009 BCP, Lupron, Bravelle, Menopur Chemical FET #1 April 2009 Natural Chemical FET #2 July/August 2009 Natural - Three fur babies
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there have been several success stories around here with natural FETs - a lady in our group- her ivf failed (chem preg) and she did a natural FET and now she has twins When do you test?? you get a BFP![]()
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Traci Me: 39, LAP + HSG = endo(I), DH: 31 dd: 11 yrs old (clomid baby) 7 failed IUIs w/ follistim, femara, ovid IVF in April '08 please GodMay 2 Beta #1 8dp5dt = 153 ! finally! May 5 Beta #2 11dp5dt = 533 ! dx:mild OHSS May 12 Beta #3 18dp5dt = 8635 !! Connor Matthew 2 wks early Dec 27th, 7pds 2oz 6/8/09 Surprise Natural BFP (while bfing) beta 1 =133, beta 2= 169 6/16/09 Sept '09 FET 9/30 FET 2 mid grade blasts "AB" 10/09 9dp5dt beta = 313 10/12 12dp5dt beta = 1131 10/19 19dp5dt beta = 9,164 10/28 u/s = TWINS!! 6w2d HB 114 & 6w5d HB 128 |
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Thanks Tracilynn
I am trying to stay positive. I go in 10 days for my beta. I have decided not to POAS this cycle. It just stresses me out more and doesn't mean anything with the chemical pregnancies.
I appreciate your words of encouragement.
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Me - 34 Unexplained, MTHFR DH -37 good motility, little low 4 failed IUIs IVF #1 March 2009 BCP, Lupron, Bravelle, Menopur Chemical FET #1 April 2009 Natural Chemical FET #2 July/August 2009 Natural - Three fur babies
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Thanks all, for your responses. Our game plan is this: my RE will thaw 2 embryos on the day of transfer; if both make it through thawing we will transfer both and keep 2 frozen. If only 1 or none make it through thaw, then they will thaw the remaining 2.
If we end up with 3 thawed (because 1 of the 1st 2 makes it and both of the 2nd 2 make it) we will transfer all 3.
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Me: 37 DH: 44 1 Yellow Lab, Sophie 1 Fox Terrier, Floie 2008 Tried Clomid 3 times, no pregnancies Nov 2008 IUI #1 Dec 2008 IUI #2 March 2009 IVF#1 9 eggs retrieved 9 fertilized 3 transferred, none frozen 1st Beta 10 2nd Beta 15 3rd Beta 0 Biochemical Pregnancy July 2009 IVF #2 15 eggs retrieved 13 fertilized 2 transferred, 4 frozen 1st Beta (9dp5dt) = 8 2nd Beta (11dp5dt) = 38 3rd Beta (14dp5dt) = 123 4th Beta (18dp5dt) = 32 Biochemical Pregnancy 08/28/09 FET #1 2 snowbabies transferred + hpt on 9/2 - wow that's early! 09/08/2009 First Beta 274 ![]() 09/10/09 Second Beta 892 09/22/09 First OB ultrasound - saw heartbeat!! 10/09/09 Third ultrasound - size and heartbeat are perfect. 10/21/2009 Graduated to OBGYN. Heard heartbeat on doppler maching. 160bpm!! |
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This sounds like a good idea. Keep us posted!
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Me = 26 SMC Still deciding between traditional adoption, embryo donation and IUI |
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I am new to this site as this is my first posting ever. I'm not sure what all the lingo and abbreviations are although I try to figure them out. I am 44 years old and have never been prego. I am married two years now and unable to conceive. I have had two IVF's which both resulted in pregnancies but I miscarried both times, each further then the other. I am now scheduled for an FET on Setember 30th. I have 4 frosties and if all make it through the thaw they will all be transferred. I am confused because although I am not doing a natural FET I am using the patch as well as an oral estogen pill but that's it. I will start progesterone once my lining is confirmed thick enough. Why do some people use Lupron and some don't? Does anyone know of someone my age being successful with an FET?
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Trixie-The vivelle estrogen patches are fine that protocol is used alot . Each re had his own potion so don't worry about that. As far as success at 44 well it all depends when the eggs were retrieved. The younger the egg provider the higher the
Blah Blah Blah you know the drill. Its only takes one so try to be positive and keep your mind open about options.![]()
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BALLERINAGIRL me- 42 fsh-5 healthy dh-44 and on the "go" team ttc age 39 iui pregnant first try no heartbeat 8 weeks D & C 4 clomid iui 's ivf #1 disaster no transfer age 40 now told my age is an issue searching for the nearest bridge after consult with RE 4 more ivf's beautiful embryos with 1 chemical 2 more ivf ohss cycles I'm dying here sept-ivf- CVS results in:Its TWINS aBoyand a Girl Charles and Lily are here! they are almost 8 months old. Thank the heavens.![]() Throwing caution to the wind & trying for Fall 2010 darling baby |
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