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Old 08-17-2006, 12:56 PM
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Angry Faith & Infertility - Confused and Venting

I don't know where to start. I think most of you know my story now and sometimes my family makes me so mad with their comments. So my mother told me that she thinks my hubby and I should try to continue to conceive on our own. She (who is not a religious person) that we should leave this in God's hands. So I ask her where she got this from (since she is a nurse and should understand medical problems) and she tells me that my grandmother and her were talking about fertility treatments. My grandmother feels that if God is not allowing Matt and I to have children than it was meant to be that way and we should not "play God" with my body to force pregnancy. I could not believe what I was hearing; especially since my hubby and I are strong christians. We feel thought that PCOS is like a disease causing problems such as anovulation; therefore, I need medicine to fix or cure this problem of anovulation which is the fertility medicine. Does anyone else see it this way?

I explained to my mother this and told her it is no different than when my grandmother had to take chemo when she had breast cancer. She had to "play God" to rid her body of the problems that the breast cancer was bringing to her which would or could have ended in death. My mom said I was being irrational and that my head was not working properly anymore. I just could not believe this so we ended the conversation; however, I could not sleep well last night because this was on my mind. I prayed and prayed last night and I found myself explaining to God about the fertility treatments (which is insane).

Please help or give insights into what you all think?

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Clomid 4x from Jan - July 2006
Diagnosed with PCOS July 2006
HSG test - No blockages, Perfect!
Female infertility - anovulation issues
Hubby SA - high count, high mobility, Perfect!
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HCG Trigger Injection (19mm Follicle) 8-28-06
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Old 08-17-2006, 01:02 PM
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I am sorry your family is not being supportive. I agree with you, PCOS is a condition that you did not ask for. You are trying to work with what you have been given.

At the end of the day, you need to do what you and your husband feel is right for you. If you are both comfortable with your course of action, stick with it and ask your family to not discuss it.

I wish you lots of luck and know that you will make the right decision!
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Old 08-17-2006, 02:15 PM
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Ok here is my take, as a Christian woman myself, you aren't trying to play God. I've struggled with my infertility for four years and I've had this conversation with DH and my family. At first I was completely against the thought of going through IVF because I was afraid I'd be playing God at that point. It isn't the case. God knows every aspect and detail of our lives long before we do. He knows what's going to come out of our trials and He knows the decisions that are ahead of us to make. That being said, the medication is a tool that helps to get you to a certain point. I wanted to be able to say I'd done everything I could to get to that point, what happens from there is in God's hands. If He chooses to bless us with a pregnancy fantastic, it was meant to be, but if He doesn't then I have to have faith that it was for a reason.
The other thing I look at is the "if he brings you to it, he'll get you through it." If you are moving along without interruptions or roadblocks (as my pastor says) then keep moving forward. If you hit a roadblock it doesn't necessarily mean you can't move forward it just means you'll have to take a different way to get there and thus it may take some time. It will all work out in the end exactly as it should according to His will. Not everyone understands it that way.
You can lean on us anytime. I know how it feels to have someone close to you feel it best to stop but it's your decision, made through prayer, that keeps you going!
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Old 08-17-2006, 04:43 PM
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I am so glad to here from all of you. Maybe I am super emotional because of the Bravelle right now, but this religious aspects have me in shambles for the past two days. I am glad that others feel the way I do and I do realize we are doing this for a baby so it is our decision. It just hurts when family feel that you are doing something wrong when you have lived your life doing good works for God. It sucks!

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Ok here is my take, as a Christian woman myself, you aren't trying to play God. I've struggled with my infertility for four years and I've had this conversation with DH and my family. At first I was completely against the thought of going through IVF because I was afraid I'd be playing God at that point. It isn't the case. God knows every aspect and detail of our lives long before we do. He knows what's going to come out of our trials and He knows the decisions that are ahead of us to make. That being said, the medication is a tool that helps to get you to a certain point. I wanted to be able to say I'd done everything I could to get to that point, what happens from there is in God's hands. If He chooses to bless us with a pregnancy fantastic, it was meant to be, but if He doesn't then I have to have faith that it was for a reason.
The other thing I look at is the "if he brings you to it, he'll get you through it." If you are moving along without interruptions or roadblocks (as my pastor says) then keep moving forward. If you hit a roadblock it doesn't necessarily mean you can't move forward it just means you'll have to take a different way to get there and thus it may take some time. It will all work out in the end exactly as it should according to His will. Not everyone understands it that way.
You can lean on us anytime. I know how it feels to have someone close to you feel it best to stop but it's your decision, made through prayer, that keeps you going!
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TTC since 2004
Clomid 4x from Jan - July 2006
Diagnosed with PCOS July 2006
HSG test - No blockages, Perfect!
Female infertility - anovulation issues
Hubby SA - high count, high mobility, Perfect!
Started Bravelle injections 8-14-06
HCG Trigger Injection (19mm Follicle) 8-28-06
Failed cycle (menstrual cycle) 9-7-06


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Old 08-17-2006, 05:47 PM
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hey! i totally agree with everything jen said. (thanks jen for you wise words!) and i am sorry that you are going through this without the full support from your mom. but you do have to do what is right for you and your dh. god knows your heart, don't you start to doubt yourself!!
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Old 08-17-2006, 06:09 PM
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I read this earlier and walked out the thread because I knew I'd cuss. These BCP's are wearing ya girl out.

That said, if someone had a massive coronary heart attack in your family...would she not want them to get whatever help medical science had available?

I mean come on. There are factors here that weren't of our doing. I didn't do ANYTHING to end up with cancer. NOTHING. NADA. *sigh*

I'm leaving again before I say anything else.

Keep ya chin up chica. We're here for you.

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Old 08-17-2006, 06:24 PM
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Bambie, I agree with you 100%, this is a medical condition same as cancer or anything else. Most people wouldn't fault cancer patients for getting treatment (although there are some religious groups that even take it that far).

I think faith and your relationship with God are very personal things and your relationship with Him is between you and Him.

A book you might want to check out is "hannah's hope...seeking God's heart in the midst of infertility, miscarriage and adoption loss" by Jennifer Saake.

PS - I don't think it's insane at all to talk to God about your infertility treatments and explaining it to Him. God wants you to come to Him and unload your burdens.
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Old 08-18-2006, 12:54 AM
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Exactly What Monica Said She Is Right.
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Old 08-18-2006, 06:33 AM
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You girls are great! I have been feeling better now about all this. I know I am right with God and I do not need my mother's approval to do this.
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TTC since 2004
Clomid 4x from Jan - July 2006
Diagnosed with PCOS July 2006
HSG test - No blockages, Perfect!
Female infertility - anovulation issues
Hubby SA - high count, high mobility, Perfect!
Started Bravelle injections 8-14-06
HCG Trigger Injection (19mm Follicle) 8-28-06
Failed cycle (menstrual cycle) 9-7-06


Waiting....

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Old 08-18-2006, 08:24 AM
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good for you girl! hang in there!
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TTC #1 for 2.5+ years
ME: (Amy) 28, tubal damage
DH: (Chris) 30, perfect!
3 IUI cycles cancelled due to a # of problems & 1 cycle resulting in BFN
1/12 BFP on natural cycle,ectopic pregnancy ended 1/23/07
1st IVF:
2/7- ER- 17 eggies!!
2/10-ET 2 8-cell
6dp3dt, 7dp3dt hpt= God is so good!
Betas: 2/22= 170, 2/25= 499, 2/29=2857
1st u/s 3/13 (My wedding anniversary!) 140 BEAUTIFUL bpm!
2nd u/s 3/27 - WOW! The growth is amazing! 182 bpm
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