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Old 11-07-2009, 06:26 AM
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HI! I am new to this forum and though that I would ask my first question! My DH had his sperm analysis in June 2008 in which we paid for out of pocket. It was never submitted through insurance. In August 2008, I began a new job and have had BCBS since then. We are in open enrollment right now and I am changing my insurance plan to one that includes infertility coverage. We will still be with BCBS, just a different plan. My question is...will the sperm analysis that occured prior to us having BCBS be considered a pre-existing condition? I have talked to my doctor's office and they have told me that once we begin the IVF/ICSI procedure, all records are sent to BCBS upon their request; which includes the sperm analysis we paid for on our own. Does anyone have any idea what may happen? I just don't want to change to an insurance plan if we aren't going to need it. Right now, the plan we are on is free and the plan we would be changing to is $250+/month. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks!
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Old 11-07-2009, 06:50 AM
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HI! I am new to this forum and though that I would ask my first question! My DH had his sperm analysis in June 2008 in which we paid for out of pocket. It was never submitted through insurance. In August 2008, I began a new job and have had BCBS since then. We are in open enrollment right now and I am changing my insurance plan to one that includes infertility coverage. We will still be with BCBS, just a different plan. My question is...will the sperm analysis that occured prior to us having BCBS be considered a pre-existing condition? I have talked to my doctor's office and they have told me that once we begin the IVF/ICSI procedure, all records are sent to BCBS upon their request; which includes the sperm analysis we paid for on our own. Does anyone have any idea what may happen? I just don't want to change to an insurance plan if we aren't going to need it. Right now, the plan we are on is free and the plan we would be changing to is $250+/month. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks!

RSB, hi! I think any fertility benefits is awesome. I would not worry too much and contact bcbs directly even in your open enrollment. But are you just covering you or both? If you are covering both of you then I would say, go for it and contact bcbs to find out. Similar had happened to us and we seem to be ok so far. That would give your DH his own fertility benefits up to the lifetime maxium as it does for you. I know I probable did not answer your questions but I would say even if DH analysis are not covered due to pre-existing, it is still so worth it since IVF is so $$$$ and you never know what your family will need. You can always appeal the insurance and claim on taxes in afterwards.

Let me know and Blessings always to you and your DH!!!

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History: 2 laps for endo/PCOS (in Rt ovary)
2 clomid and 1 ovulation induction/IUI (negative)
IVF1: suspected ectopic-m/c at 5wks (Jan 10 '07: MTX-M/C on Jan 12'07)
IVF2: 6/7wk no FtH, 8wk FtPole disappeared, 9wk D&C on Aug 8 '07
IVF3: Sometime in 2009, but only after saving 4K in cash. it will be soon!

Updates: November 17 (New RE Consult): cd 3 E2/FSH and AMH. E2 26, FSH 7.6, AMH#1 = 0.04 LOW waiting on AMH#2 = 0.58 (still low) but better than #1.

Dec 2008- mock transfer, lots and lots of lab work. Results: Positive for MTHFR and one of the IG's either IGA or IGE and March 2009-Tested + for Factor V (R506) and boardline for Antiphospholipid Antibody. (baby aspirin, B6/B12 for now) Later: Lovenox and Steriods

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Old 11-07-2009, 07:33 AM
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A lot of this will also depend on what the company has decided to put into their coverage. You can call and ask them.... but if you can get any of it covered at all...your stuff..you are doing great. There are so many companies that choose to not put any infertility benefits into their coverage. Also sometimes insurance companies won't have pre existing clauses as long as you haven't been with out insurance for a certain period of time, or, they will not consider it pre existing if it has been so long...so you just need to ask your HR department or call them.
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Me: 41 PCOS, Insulin Resistance/secondary IF
DH: 38

10/07 IUI BFN
12/07 IVF BFN
3/08 IVF #2..bfn

Told eggs must be old.Increased metformin to 2000 mg a day

1st FET..adopted embies
FET date... 12/9..transfered 2 fragmented embies
1st Beta....

2nd FET
tranfer date: 2/5 for
Transfered 2 perfect hatching blasts
2/16...11dp5dt...HPT.. !!
Beta #1 408!!11 dp5dt
Beta #2 887!! 13dp5dt
Beta #3 1,726 16dp4dt
Beta #4 over 7,000 Ok, that's enough betas!
US 2/23...One sack with one fetal pole so far!
Next US 3/27...Very early HB 109
4-13-09 NT scan..HB great, baby moving around
6-4-09.. everything healthy...its a BOY!

10/20/09 c-section
Connor Ryan Ethan Wilson 7 lbs 1 oz 18 1/2 inches
Such a beautiful boy, such a blessing
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Old 11-07-2009, 08:02 AM
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I paid for my first IVF out of pocket. Then I also had the opportunity to switch from bcbs PPO (no IF coverage) to bcbs HMO (full IF coverage). I did ask about pre existing conditions before I switched, thinking the same as you... if it's not covered, it's definitely not worth it. I did not ask bcbs directly, I asked the person in charge of benefits at my company. Her answer was, as long as I entered at open enrollment, then I was fully covered for all they had to offer. That the insurance could not turn me down. **I don't know if this is true everywhere** but we've had no problems with them covering everything we've needed so far.
Greatest luck to you! I hope the insurance can ease some of the stress.
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Me (33) = PCOS, Anovulatory // DH (33) = almost perfect
Roxy (black lab mix) Kaylee (yellow lab mix)

FET Dec '09
10/6 start bcp, 10/13 hysteroscopy for polyp removal, 10/31 Lupron
12/4 FET scheduled

IVF # 4 2009
8/28 Lupron, 9/11 Stimulation begins, 9/22 Retrieval (41 eggs) w/ICSI
No fresh transfer. 23 embryos frozen (at early stage [day 1])

IVF # 3 2009
5/24 Lupron, 6/12 Stimulation begins, 6/23 Retrieval (23 eggs) w/ICSI
No fresh transfer. 2 embryos frozen

IVF #2 2008
10/10 Stimulation begins, 10/20 Retrieval (33 eggs) w/ICSI
No fresh transfer. All 8 embryos frozen
FET BFN FET BFN (chemical)

IVF #1 2008
2/8 Stimulation begins, 2/18 Retrieval
No fresh transfer. All 6 embryos Frozen
FET BFN

IUI 2006-2007
5 failed IUI attempts

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Old 11-08-2009, 08:06 AM
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Thank you so much for all your input. It makes me feel better to hear this from others that have gone through it. I try to be optimistic, but insurance stuff scares me. You never know what to expect. The insurance plan we want to change to covers $25k per couple for services and supplies for infertility per lifetime. They also cover quite a bit of the meds that we will have to take. Not all...but most. This is our first time doing this and I feel completely clueless. Everyone has been so helpful, but I still fel as if I have absolutely no clue what it going to happen. I'm excited though...can't wait to start!
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Old 11-08-2009, 09:46 AM
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My Dh has great IF insurance through his work, and we have switched twice already and to different insurance companies and both did not consider it a preexisting condition, so hopefully this is the case for you, I would think that it would be ok.
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ME: 27-PCOS
DH: 28-Fluctuating sperm # and quality

1/3 &4-IUI #3
1/17
1/17-Beta #1-57, prog.-3.6
1/18-Beta#2-80, prog.-9
1/21 Beta #3 198, prog.-16.7
1/24 Beta #4-642, prog.-15
1/29-u/s-saw yolk & sac!
5/6-Gender scan-a BOY!!! Jackson Joseph!
9/27-Emergecny C-section, 6lbs 15 oz, 20 3/4 inches! Born 4:45 am

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