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Old 10-31-2007, 09:45 AM
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My latest round of Clomid was unsuccessful so my RE put me on Femara. My u/s to see how that worked was this morning. The Femara doesn't appear to have worked either. My RE called me into his office after my u/s and basically told me that I'm too fat to get pregnant. Obviously he said it much more tactfully than that, but that's what it boils down to. He pretty much said that there's no point in continuing with oral meds until I can lose some weight and that I would have to start injectibles if I want to continue at this point. I'm really not ready to start sticking needles into myself. I mean, this is only my 2nd cycle of treatment since starting to see my RE. I know this isn't the end of the world but I don't want to have to put my treatment on hold for as long as it's going to take for me to lose the amount of weight that I need to.

Today I feel like giving up. I'm tired of feeling like this all the time.. I can't think about anything else. I feel like we're never going to have a family and I just don't know what to do. And now I feel selfish since I know that so many of you are having an even harder time than I am and have been going through this so much longer than I have and with so many more disappointments than I've had.
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Old 10-31-2007, 10:26 AM
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Dont give up

Dont give up yet. It will be worth it in the end. This is a ruff process, along with frustrating. I just started the injection this cycle. In fact I was insemenated today. The needles are not that bad. They dont hurt at all. I tried three cycles of clomid with IUI and was unsuccessful. If fact I responded very well to the clomid and still did not get pregnant. It is all just frustrating. I heard that losing weight is helpful. I am overweight as well, I used to be much heavier and learned that taking care of myself will be benefital for both you and your chances. I dont know how overweight you are, but I lost my weight through overeater anonymous. It was great to have a support group that helped with my food and my emotions. Hang in there. There is always hope. Dont give up. You are in the right place.
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Me - 38 - Unexplained ifertility, possible PCOS, possible Endometrosis
DH - 43 - low count good mobility
TTC - 1 year
8/10 - 12/13 - 6 IUI's 3 clomid 3 follistim all
12/30/07 - Started birth Control to prep for IVF
IVF #1
2/15 - started 300mg follistim and 75mg menapur
2/18 - 1st us 6 follies
2/20 - 3 follies maturing (not a good sign) increase follistim 375mg
2/25 - ER - 2 eggs
2/25 - fertilized
2/26 - spiltting 2 cell and 4 cell
2/28 - ET 2 embies - 5 and 6 cell with 40% fragment but still growing
3/8 - beta #1 - 94.1
3/10 - beta #2 - 241
3/13 - bets #3 - 816.4
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Old 10-31-2007, 12:04 PM
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The injectable are really not as bad as you would think. I really didn't think that I would be able to give myself a shot, and my husband didn't want to give them to me. So I went on and tried it. It really was alot easier to do. I give myself a shot in the upper thigh. There is a numb spot that you have there. Occassionally I miss it but it really doesn't hurt. Now my trigger shot my husband HAS to give me because it is given in the upper portion of the buttocks. So it is not that bad for him when he only has to give me one shot.

I tried the clomid for 4 months with no success. I'm currently on my 3rd cycle with injectibles. I was VERY responsive to the injectable. It has helped my LEFT ovary to start responding.

Also, my RE suggested that I order the MEDs from Europe. They were MUCH CHEAPER that way.

Another thing I'm way overweight but my doctor never has suggested that that might be a problem. I've got other issues. AGE is one thing and I had, had Ovarian Cancer Cyst in 2005 on my left ovary.

Hopefully this helps in you decision.
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iui #2 with Injectibles----- 10/07/07
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Old 10-31-2007, 01:22 PM
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hi

I am really sorry you are having a hard time and that today was not good news. Its really hard to wait and I know its all I think about too and it does take over life sometimes. Maybe take a few days to just give yourself a rest and then think about how you want to go forward. Could you get another opinion from a different RE? I think doctors are really different so someone else might be able to suggest something more helpful?
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7/07 - 11/07 - various forms of progesterone - finally a little sucess at extending my LP on the last cycle.
11/19/07 - first RE appointment
11/26/07 - CD3 blood panel (normal) and DH SA (normal)
12/07 - ttc on 100mg progesterone 2xday
12/14/07 -
12/18/07 - first beta - 194
12/20/07 - second beta - 515!!
1/2/07 - first u/s due to bleeding - saw baby and sac and HB but there is also what dr thinks is a twin that didn't make it in there and we are not out of the woods yet.
1/9/08 - 2nd u/s - baby looking good. HR 131 - but other sac still there and not getting smaller
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Old 10-31-2007, 02:57 PM
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As far as I know, mine is the only RE in the area. As I've been stewing over this all day, I was thinking that it might not be a horrible idea to go ahead with the injectibles while I'm trying to lose some weight. The biggest thing that worries me is that my RE said that my chances for m/c would be up around 35-40% instead of the more normal 15%. I'm managing to deal with the IF but I don't know how well I would be able to deal with a m/c.

I'm in a very "it's not fair!" mood today. I know women who are bigger than I am get pregnant. My husband's cousin's wife is so big that with her last baby (she has 3 kids) you couldn't even tell she was pregnant. And I keep getting the feeling that my RE is implying that I have PCOS because I'm overweight when I don't see how that can be right. There was a little skinny girl in the waiting room of his office the other day who mentioned to another patient that she has PCOS.

Anyway, thanks for your support.. I really appreciate it. This site has really helped me a lot in the couple weeks since I found it. Thanks again.
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Old 10-31-2007, 03:05 PM
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hi

I think sadly that some doctors are pretty insensitive about weight and maybe it clouds their thinking a little. I don't blame you for being frustrated. I don't know a lot about PCOS but my friend has it and I thought that she had said it contributes to weight problems not the other way around. Like, you don't get pcos b/c of your weight, but you might have trouble with your weight because you have PCOS? I might be wrong but I thought she told me that. I hope you feel better soon. I have definitely had some of those 'its not fair, why me' moments when my friends around me are getting pregnant with no problems... but hopefully we are each on our own journey for a reason and maybe the reason will be clear to us some day. I hope so....
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Ali (32) - low progesterone and LPD
DH(34) - fine
6/07 - Miscarriage @ 6 weeks
7/07 - 11/07 - various forms of progesterone - finally a little sucess at extending my LP on the last cycle.
11/19/07 - first RE appointment
11/26/07 - CD3 blood panel (normal) and DH SA (normal)
12/07 - ttc on 100mg progesterone 2xday
12/14/07 -
12/18/07 - first beta - 194
12/20/07 - second beta - 515!!
1/2/07 - first u/s due to bleeding - saw baby and sac and HB but there is also what dr thinks is a twin that didn't make it in there and we are not out of the woods yet.
1/9/08 - 2nd u/s - baby looking good. HR 131 - but other sac still there and not getting smaller
1/17/08 - 3rd u/s and prenatal appt - HR 165 - sac smaller


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Old 10-31-2007, 03:11 PM
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You know, you might want to consider a second opinion....also, I was terrified of giving myself a shot and my DH can't even be in the room with a needle or he passes out so I had to do it myself and it was much easier than I thought....I feel as though I can give anyone a shot now....

GOOD LUCK....I know this whole thing is frustrating but we are all here for ya.....
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Foster Dog Wintston(german shepard)
1 yr. TTC naturally
11/06-2/07 - failed Clomid
5/07 - Injections (menopur) Cancelled (follies to small)
6/13/07 - IUI - Failed
8/3 - took HPT
8/11 - AF ((she finally showed up)
9/19/07 - Chemical pregnancy -taking another month off
9/20/07 - AF
10/30/07 - She's Back!!!AF
Taking a break for the holidays BUT trying Fertility Blend...
12/10/07-AF Finally showed up after a negative HPT!
1/28/08-AF - Start Menopur on 1/30 (my DH's b-day - maybe that will be lucky)
2/10-IUI #2
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Old 10-31-2007, 03:56 PM
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I'm sorry that you're having such a tough day! I am also overweight and have PCOS, but the other ladies are right, PCOS makes it hard to lose weight, but being overweight doesn't cause the disease. My RE has never mentioned losing weight to me. I tried Femara first and managed to get pregnant right away, but we lost that little one. I was convinced that I was never going to get to the point that I would do injectibles. Well, here I am with my little miracle on the way after giving it a shot (no pun intended). I tried Femara and Gonal-F first and then moved to a purely injectible cycle of Menopur. It's all worth it when you see those two little lines!

Best of luck to you in whatever you decide to do. We're here for you!!
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Kitty babies: Zeus & Ceres
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4/15/07: !!!
4/28/07: Little Angel lost to chemical pregnancy at 5w6d
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10/18/07: HPT Beta at 10dpo: 30
10/22/07: Beta #2... 343!!!
Born on her due date (6/30/08) at 9:10 pm!
Welcome Anna Faith!!
6 lbs. 14 oz., 20" long



5/22/09: SURPRISE!!
5/26/09: u/s showed a yolk sac and measured at 5w1d
5/26/09: progesterone was only 8.1
5/29/09: Beta #1... 7,133!! progesterone... 6.4
6/1/09: Beta #2... 14,379 and progesterone... 10.8
6/3/09: u/s showed one healthy little bean... HR: 112 bpm
6/10/09: u/s looked good! HR: 153 bpm
7/20/09: NT scan and 1st OB appt... Everything looks good! HR: 163 bpm
9/2/09: It's a BOY!!
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Old 10-31-2007, 07:43 PM
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Fortunately my RE was pretty tactful about the whole thing. It was probably a lot more harsh in my head than it really was.. I was already upset because the Femara apparently didn't work and then to have to deal with that too was tough. In my head I was hearing "it's your own fault you can't get pregnant" even though I know that's not what he was saying. What I really don't understand is why the Clomid alone worked so well last month when I was just as overweight as I am now.. but now nothing's working because I'm too fat.

I really just don't know what to do and there's not really anyone around me that I can ask for advice. My family doesn't know any more about this whole business than I do and I know my husband will just tell me to do whatever I think is best. Well I don't know what's best!! I know I need to lose the weight.. for my own health and for my eventual baby's as well.. and I'm trying and I have my sister and my mother supporting me in that.. but I don't know what to do about treatment.. should I put it on hold or should I go ahead with the injectibles?
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