[jana]

I know some of you have done further testing, and I was just wondering what test you elected to do. The RE said that we really didn't need to do testing on the tissue since we are paying for everything out of pocket. She did say we have to do Karyotype testing before the next cycle. She said she would also like for us to do PGD the next cycle. We are going to be so broke after this that we aren't going to be able to afford a baby!

[historyteach]

jana - i had auto-immune testing, blood clotting disorders and i am waiting for the karotyping results. as for the PGD - i just got back from my RE and he pretty much told me that unless your karotyping comes back abnormal it is not worth having it done. if you have more questions let me know.

you are in my thoughts and prayers sweetie

[historyteach]

ladies i am sitting here just more angry by the minute - there is nothing wrong... what does that mean - that everything is normal. i have been going thru tests, procedures, heart ache, etc!!!! and after all this crap that i have gone thru they are still telling me that i am normal and there is no reason why i can't get pregnant on my own or why i am miscarrying. i am just getting angry. ok, i feel a little better. i just wish that none of us ever have to go thru this

[jana]

Jamie, the RE told me this morning that the karyotyping was the most important thing to her. She told me if that came back with no problems, then we would look at the uterus to see if there was something wrong with that tissue. I'm with you......I'm so sick of the testing, needles, disappointment, let downs, etc.

I've told DH that I want to continue with the IVF, but I also want to see about starting the process of adoption. I've been researching it, and it looks like it could take up to 2 years to be placed with a child. If IVF doesn't work, I don't want to have to continue waiting. If we are able to adopt and give birth to one that would be great. This whole situation we are all in is so difficult.

[historyteach]

Originally Posted by jana

Jamie, the RE told me this morning that the karyotyping was the most important thing to her. She told me if that came back with no problems, then we would look at the uterus to see if there was something wrong with that tissue. I'm with you......I'm so sick of the testing, needles, disappointment, let downs, etc.

I've told DH that I want to continue with the IVF, but I also want to see about starting the process of adoption. I've been researching it, and it looks like it could take up to 2 years to be placed with a child. If IVF doesn't work, I don't want to have to continue waiting. If we are able to adopt and give birth to one that would be great. This whole situation we are all in is so difficult.

sweetie, all i can say is i understand... i wish i could give you a really big hug. as for the adoption, just realize that the agencies that i have talked to refused to put me on their waiting list because i have not finished with my fertility treatments. i actually had to sign a paper stating that i would not do any procedures while waiting to be matched. they told me that is because you have to grieve from the loss of never having your own biological child prior to putting your heart and soul in to adoption. i wish you all the luck and i hope that things work for you

[jana]

Jamie, we really have to stop jumping around from thread to thread. LOL!!! Too funny. I'll have to look into it. I'm still not sure that I'm ready to seek out adoption just yet. I just want to get all my ducks in a row.

[MissBish]

jana....i am sorry to hear about your recent loss. i hope you find the answers you are looking for. My heart goes out to you and your DH.

[Highopes]

Originally Posted by historyteach

ladies i am sitting here just more angry by the minute - there is nothing wrong... what does that mean - that everything is normal. i have been going thru tests, procedures, heart ache, etc!!!! and after all this crap that i have gone thru they are still telling me that i am normal and there is no reason why i can't get pregnant on my own or why i am miscarrying. i am just getting angry. ok, i feel a little better. i just wish that none of us ever have to go thru this

......I hear you loud & clear. This is exactly how I feel some days. I feel like a "pin cushion" some days being poked and prodded. I have to tell everyone this as for me personally I find this helpful. I have been going to a psychic for the last 8 years (the same woman) & for the most part she has got her predictions right about me/my life etc...so after my m/c happened I felt I needed some help/insight (this is helpful for me as I know she's genuine) & she told me that within the next 3 months I would get pregnant again & it would be a healthy boy! Boy, I wasn't expecting that news but I was happy to hear that & now just hoping it comes true Has any one else ever used this type of medium for help/some answers?

[chuchu]

Highhopes, it's funny that you mentioned the psychic. The day before getting my BFP I was holding the phone, very tempted to make an appointment. Just yesterday I was talking about this to DH: I would love to visit a psychic!

Jaime and Jana, today is one of those hard days for me. I understand you!! Maybe it is because we are in the "testing" phase.

So, yesterday I received the results of the genetic testing: Normal girl. Of course, you guessed it, we have always wanted a girl. That made us sad. The nurse said this was good and bad news; and that now we need to find what went wrong. Tomorrow morning I will visit RE.

Meanwhile, I spoke with my RE in Peru. He said that I should take the auto-inmune testing and probably, also DH. He said that before doing any other IVF we should know what went wrong.

Also, I called a close friend who had 3 m/c before delivering a healthy girl 6 months ago. Her auto-inmune testing came Positive for cardiolipin. During her pregnancy she had to take daily shots of Heparin.

Having done all this, my mind started going 10,000 miles per hour. All the "ifs" and worries appeared and finally, the thought appeared: "Maybe I shouldn't try anymore". I feel so guilty and without any luck.

We know for sure that we will be passing DH's semen condition and the possibility of also passing whatever is wrong with me. Those thoughts make me feel over-stressed.


So, trying to chill myself I said: let's wait and see what happens. Keyword: WAIT...... Why is life asking for more patience????

I hope that we all find our answers or accept if there are no answers.

[jana]

Highhopes, I told DH that I was thinking about that and he said "Seriously?" I don't know if I would trust anyone here though.

Claudia, it sounds like today was pretty difficult for many of us. I did the Heparin injections twice a day for 12 weeks. I credited that with my getting pregnant. I decided not to test the tissue becuase I couldn't take knowing if it was a girl or boy. I think that woud send me completely over the edge. I hope tomorrow is better.

[missywojo]

Wow ladies, I haven't signed on for a couple days and there's a lot of action here.

I think my money situation is "working out," but nothing's ideal like you all know so well. My sister is going to give me another $5000. Then I will just put the rest on open credit and equity line. Like I said, not ideal to continue to jack up our credit. But I really want to do one more try before moving on to adoption.

I am still waiting for beta to go to zero, then will wait for AF to show.

It's taking me awhile to go through everyone's posts.

Dani, I am so sorry for your loss. I am sorry you made it to 12 weeks, just to have the m/c happen again.

Amy, I am really sorry that your baby didn't grow. I hope you feel better now after the cramping and bleeding. I see you were able to freeze some embabies. So hopefully you will be able to do a FET soon.

Claudia, I am sorry you really didn't get any answers from the genetic testing. It seems like there's always more testing to do.

Amy & Claudia, GO BLUE!!! I have been getting all my tailgating gear ready to go for the last couple weeks. I LOVE tailgate season!!!

Onemiracle, I am sorry for your loss too. I hope your m/c happens before the family party .

Colee, I am sorry for your loss and that you had such crappy experiences with all the doctors. I think you are very strong to take the medicine and have your m/c at home.

klbabynow, highhopes, PamHF, Jana, & Heather, I am sorry for your losses too. Welcome to this thread though!

Jamie, I think you are very strong to go for IVF #3.

Well, I am going to have to sign on daily again like I used to. I want to keep up with everyone!

[chuchu]

Jana, why were you doing Heparin?

[Sanda]

Klbabynow - I'm so sorry for your loss. My RE also said I did not need any further testing since this was my first miscarriage, but I thought that since I used young donor eggs I should have had a healthy pregnancy. He gave me a list of immune and clotting tests that I could get if my health insurance would cover it since they are costly tests and he didn't think they were necessary at this time. He thought I was just unlucky and had a blighted ovum, this just happens sometimes. Well, my OB was willing to test me for lupus anticoagulant and cardiolipin antibodies. I tested positive for both, which means I might have antiphospholipid antibodies. This is an autoimmune problem where your body is prone to clots. People that have antiphospholipid antibodies have recurrent miscarriages. This syndrome can be treated with heparin injections. My RE now wants me to repeat the tests 6 weeks after my last test to make sure it was not a false positive before doing a FET.

Sherry - I'm sorry you didn't get any answers from your OB/Gyn. Hopefully your RE can answer your questions.

PamHF - I'm so sorry for you and your husband. Take it a day at a time. I was in a cloud for a few weeks after my miscarriage. I still have some bad days. that your next cycle is the one.

marilynnj - I wanted to miscarry naturally too. I was lucky that it only took 3 days after the ultrasound to happen. You are so strong to be going throught this

Jana - I'm so sorry for your loss. I'll be thinking about you for your D&C tomorrow. I pushed for immune and clotting tests (lupus anticoagulant and cardiolipin antibodies).

HeatherandMatt - I'm so sorry. Losing your baby in your 2nd trimester must be horrible to go through.

Claudia - I'm sorry you didn't get any answers with your genetic testing. You might ask for immune and clotting tests (lupus anticoagulant and cardiolipin antibodies) like I did, but most RE's do not think they are necessary until after the 3rd miscarriage. But how can anyone go through 3 miscarriages before looking for answers. I just don't understand the healthcare system sometimes.

historyteach - Infertility is such a horrible thing to go through, especially with no answers.

missywojo- i'm praying that your beta gets to zero so that you can move on.

This group has unfortunately gotton so big. I'm sorry if i missed anyone. I hope everyone is doing ok.

As for me, I'm worried that I still haven't had AF. I miscarried naturally on June 26 and still no sign. My MD says it can take 6-8 weeks for AF to come. I guess it doesn't really matter since I have to repeat my autoimmune tests in early September.

[jana]

Claudia, I had the autoimmune testing done before my last cycle. I don't know which test, but out of all of them, one came back a little abnormal. We repeated the test and it came back normal the second time. They put me on Heparin as a precaution. I had two daily injections of it for 12 weeks. My stomach has purple, green, and yellow bruises all over it. You could play connect the dots if they weren't so sore.

[historyteach]

jana - i am thinking about you today hon. i pray that the procedure goes smoothly and that you are on the path of recovery both physically and emotionally