[silverbrumby]

Deej,

Have you considered at home A.I. for the cycles when logistics are against you and you can't meet up for a ? If so, I have lots of suggestions as there are some pretty nifty ways to ship the swimmers and not too expensive either.

Also, one thing to keep in mind is that the live ones that haven't been popsicled or spun to death in a centrifuge can live for up to a week inside you, so there is a little more room for error with early BDing. But at the same time, it takes a little longer for them to reach the egg, so in theory you should BD as soon as you have your surge and for optimal results your partner should not have umm...released his little guys for like a week so they build up in strength (that means even self-pleasuring is a no no).

Anyway, I think I'm crossing into the land of TMI.

Thanks for the no whammie wishes. I sure hope that nasty cyst is gone! I will be so devastated if I have to sit out another cycle.

[lilac]

for no cysts Ona!!!

Deej, good luck with the logistics. You do have a wider window with the fresh guys, after all. Good luck!

[Deej]

Thanks, Ladies! I guess next month there will be some planning, not wishful thinking! I actually surged earlier than I thought (ok, YES i am used to trigger shots darn it!)
We shall see. If I use the long time frame, I may be good to go. If I use the shorter one (24 hours after surge/12 hour egg life) I am not so good to go....
We have decided that next month, I will take several days off from work to ensure we are in the same city during crucial times. All of a sudden IUI sounds so much easier! I believe in miracles, why not almost 38 year old me with an egg that lives 24 hours??

[Deej]

Thanks, Ladies! I guess next month there will be some planning, not wishful thinking! I actually surged earlier than I thought (ok, YES i am used to trigger shots darn it!)
We shall see. If I use the long time frame, I may be good to go. If I use the shorter one (24 hours after surge/12 hour egg life) I am not so good to go....
We have decided that next month, I will take several days off from work to ensure we are in the same city during crucial times. All of a sudden IUI sounds so much easier! I believe in miracles, why not almost 38 year old me with an egg that lives 24 hours??

[silverbrumby]

Deej,

If you don't already, start charting your BBT. This will tell you better when you are Oing as opposed to surging.

Just remember that with BDing the timing is totally different. You actually want to BD the day before the surge if possible so that those swimmers have time to swim for the gold long before the egg arrives on the scene.

On the flip side, at least even if you mess up the timing you'll have fun trying instead of the precision and clinical coldness of IUI. I'll take BDing over IUI any day. ;-)

At least you know that your fertility is a-ok after all those darn tests. So hang in there and for a BFP soon!

[lilac]

Originally Posted by silverbrumby

On the flip side, at least even if you mess up the timing you'll have fun trying instead of the precision and clinical coldness of IUI. I'll take BDing over IUI any day. ;-)

I'll say! It's not exactly the most relaxing and comfortable way to conceive a child (IUI, I mean, not bding!).

Go Deej!

[Deej]

I do not know about your doctor's, but my first one was a tad cute! Definately made ttc via IUI more interesting...
I am not sure which was is best, or more fun! I like the precise timing of IUI. Next month (if this one I am too late) I will definately make sure we are in the same city prior to my surge!

How are our 2ww'ers??

[lilac]

Mine is most definitely NOT cute. Really nice, gentle guy with absolutely no sense of humour (I've learned not to joke with him), but not cute. If only...

[kblythe]

Deej, since you've been intimate with this guy, you should be able to get his sperm frozen at a sperm bank and ship it close to home. Not as fun as the old-fashioned way, but it gives you a little more flexibility. And I agree with Ona, you need to be charting your BBT.

k.

[silverbrumby]

Well lasses, I just got off the phone with Fairfax Cryo canceling my order of swimmers for this month.

YEP! The cyst is still there and I am stuck on the bench.

My doctor said to call him after my next AF starts and if the cyst is still there they will "suck it out"... basically meaning I'd have to have needle aspiration of the cyst, which is minor surgery.

He was going to suggest I go on the pill but I shot that down because my reaction to birth control is very very bad and I'd rather frankly, have needles shoved into my belly then go on the pill again in my lifetime.

At this point, I am trying very very hard not to cry. The only thing that is keeping me from crying is that I am so angry about this. Nothing in my life ever seems to come easy and after all these years of being single, fighting cancer, and wondering if I can still have children after all that chemo, it just seems like some sort of cruel joke being played on me to go into the doctor's every month and have that cyst still there.

Oh, and my doctor was also surprised when I told him I wasn't taking the Metformin. I said "so you know I stopped the metformin" and he said "no" and was surprised and said "why didn't you call" and I said "I did and it was your nurse who said to stop taking it"... he said I shouldn't have just stopped because "without it I would never get pregnant", and he would have given me something else to take if he'd known I was having such reactions (which he did today) and that actually made me angrier than the cyst because I called their office REPEATEDLY when I was having problems and it shouldn't be MY job to make sure the nurse puts info in my chart or relays it to the doctor.

So, here I sit on the bench. My next AF should arrive sometime in mid July, which means next IUI window would be in the end of July. But right now I am not feeling very hopeful. Just angry and sad and fed up.

Anyway, back to work for me since I missed several hours while out for this appointment.

Sorry I didn't have happier news.

Cheers!

[kblythe]

Well rats, Ona. I'm so sorry.

k.

[lilac]

Oh no, Ona. Just, oh no.

Has the cyst shrunk at all? Did he tell you?

Is there any thought of doing a natural IUI (drug-free)? My RE said he would do IUI as long as the cyst was shrinking and there were no fertility drugs used.

And as to the rest of it, I am extremely annoyed on your behalf.

You can do this. Not that it doesn't suck big time, because it does. Waiting is difficult. Very difficult at times. But you can do it.

[lilac]

The hospital called. I have an appointment on Tuesday for pre-admission bloodwork.

I think this might really happen! After waiting this long, I can't quite believe it.

[Deej]

Ona, I am so sorry! I do not understand cysts, but I do understand being told to sit out a cycle! Can you check into what Jen said, about the non medicated cycle? Think of all the thousands of women who have cysts that get pregnant, never knowing they had cysts to begin with! Like Jen said, it sucks. I am so bummed out for you. Your excitement about ttc was a huge motivating factor in me not letting this cycle pass w/out some sort of try! Let us know if your doc will do it unmedicated.
Ladies, thank you for the advice about timing and o'ing etc... I would appreciate suggestions as to what type thermometer to buy. Charting should be fun! This last cycle was off as I started so early, and I usually surge on day 17-19 w/ a 34-36 day cycle. Such is life.
So now I sit in a hotel, in Naperville, IL. Alone, bored, but glad to be alive. I had the worse cab experience ever. No joke, the man almost got us hit by an 18 wheeler, almost hit another van, and then hit a curb that led up to a median dividing the highway. The last hit, his comment was "*** i just paid $400 for new tires" nothing like, "i am sorry i just almost killed us!"
I am going to nap and think positive, long living egg thoughts! Thank you all for the support and suggestions. I appreciate it.
And Ona, man alive, what a bummer. A visit to the feed store may bring some sunshine to a not so sunny moment? Heck, I am holding out for the unmedicated IUI answer!
If what I am saying is way off, please someone jump in and explain why you cannot go forward w/ a cyst! I was told that had mine not gone away I would have to sit out, I think b/c the clomid would have made it worse?
to all

[silverbrumby]

Thanks ladies! Jen, my doc didn't say anything regarding the cyst size. When I asked if it had grown he said no.

I thought I was angry before, but I am even more angry now...

I went and got my prescription for the "alternative" medicine the doctor prescribed in replace of the metformin that was making me exhausted. PLEASE PLEASE tell me that I am being totally irrational because then I will feel better, but no matter how I wrap my head around this I just keep thinking my doctor must either not be listening to me, or he is mentally deficient.

I said: doctor, I can't take the metformin because it is making me crazy tired... not just tired...flat out exhausted... like I took it, and an hour later I HAD to take a nap. So I lay down thinking I will take a 15 minute nap and rest my eyes and then wake up 8 hours later!!! THAT tired!! I can't function. Can't work. Can't think. C-R-A-Z-Y T-I-R-E-D! Pretty definitive description right?

So, my doc says: You have to take the medicine or you WON'T Get pregnant. Here try this medicine. And gives me a prescription for something called ActoPlus...

Went to the pharmacy and the stuff costs $70!!!!! But I bought it because the doctor says, if I don't take this medicine, I won't get pregnant.

Take it home and like a good informed patient, I read the label and the handouts before taking it... well, come to find... the Plus in ActoPlus...stands for PLUS Metformin!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! This stuff (I'm not saying the other S word I really want to use) is 15mg of the acto-stuff and 850mg of Metformin!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

What the H-E-Double hockey sticks, right??? Or am I just going crazy?

That's like me saying "doc, I can't take this tylenol 3 because I'm allergic to codiene, and him prescribing you vicodiene instead....

So, I called the doctor's office and they give me to the nurse...and I say "why am I being given this when I said the metformin was making me CRAZY tired? It has metformin in it". And she says "well, it's a lower dose"... and I'm like NO IT ISN'T... When I was taking ONE pill that was 500mg, this is 850mg! It's just going to make me tired... And she's all "well why don't you try taking it and see how you do?" and I'm like "I don't want to lose my job over this!"...

I don't know...I just feel like they're not listening... I mean, why would he prescribe me this and make me go spend $70 on something I told him I couldn't take????????

Part of me feels bad because they are nice and friendly when I go there, but part of me is really angry because I feel like noone is listening. I mean, I don't have PCOS and I am not diabetic, so why am I taking this stuff and why will I "not get pregnant" if I don't????

I just want some answers, you know.

Anyway, like a good little patient, I took my pill and as I expected I feel like I was hit by a bus. So I am being a witch with a B and I just paged my doctor to call me cuz this is RIDICULOUS!

I'm ready to just give up on all of this because it's no good trying to have a family if it's going to cause me to lose my job and not be able to support a family.

Anyway, I am just SO p.o.'d right now I am ready to scream.