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Unexplained infertility--did you have teeth removed for braces?
Please excuse my question. I have a huge struggle here and I am hoping to find answers. My dentist insists that I do not let the orthodontist have my son's teeth pulled in order to get braces. He says that having teeth removed for braces makes the palate smaller, which crowds the adolescent development of the pituitary gland. This, he maintains, affects later development of the reproductive system because hormonal development is impaired by a pituitary gland that never grew to full size.
My dentist also tells me his friend has an infertility practice and of the couples his friend sees, he has seen this bear out. My son has been prescribed this course of treatment. I am humbly asking those who read this, could you tell me please: a.)whether it is you or your partner who are suffering from infertility issues, and b.)if either of you have had teeth (usually bicuspids) removed for braces. Thank you so, so much. Your responses will help me with an agonizing decision. Yours truly, and I pray God gives you all beautiful children, Jacqueline |
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a) dh is the main reason we have infertility issues, i have a blocked tube but it's probably not an infertility factor.
b) i got my braces off last october after having them on for 2 1/2 years. i didn't have any teeth extracted and had severe crowding on the bottom row. you might want to see if anyone in your area uses the damon system. not sure if it's more costly than the regular route, but i'm very happy with the end results. dh has never had braces and still has MF infertility.
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I can't say that I know anyone who has had braces and also has fertility problems. My husband had braces and he is not infertile, neither is his sister who also had braces...
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Hi... Let me just tell you that I have worked for an orthodontist for 12 years and I have never ever heard that having teeth pulled causing infertilty.
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Just have to jump in here...
I also worked at an orthodontic office for 6 years and I have never ever heard of this. Personally, to get the facts straight I would:
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Im sure theres no truth behind this, however I had to have some back teeth extracted before I got my braces. This was many years ago. i think I was 14. Im 32 now. I've had 3 failed IUI's & Im in the middle of an IVF cycle. Totally unexplained infertility thus far.
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I do not see how there can be a connection. I had braces for 2 1/s years, 12 teeth pulled (baby and adult), 7 reatiners, had my tonsils removed b/c mouth was too crowded, and had my jaw wired shut. We have unexplained infertility. But I think whatever you doc is telling you has little to no weight behind it. If it affected the pituitary gland, I wouldn't be 5'9". My brother also had very similar orthodontic work done, and he is 6'4" and has a 2 and a half year old little girl. He had no TTC issues.
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I am laughing at this conversation because I too have worked in the Dental field for a long time, almost 8 years... I have worked Ortho, Endo, OS, Prosth, Perio, OH (military) and I have never heard this. Sounds like your dentist doesn't like the competition lol. Removing teeth for ortho is fairly common, this creates space to reduce the crowding... and if your teeth are connected to infertility, this may be a medical break through! I do know that in pregnancy you can get gingivitis even while caring for your teeth, and it can cause preterm labor. I would get another opinion lol. Feel free to PM me any questions ![]()
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Yes and Yes
I not only had four adult teeth (bicuspids, I think) removed for braces, I had several baby teeth removed because they didn't get loose, causing overcrowding when adult teeth came in. I am also experiencing infertility, although I would not attribute it to this; my mom had a very similar pattern that I am experiencing, and she had no teeth removed. I don't recall the year I had my teeth removed, but I do believe it was before I experienced secondary amenorrhea. (I got my period, it was regular, and now I rarely get one). I had never heard of this as a possible cause, so I do find it intersting, but like I said, my mom had the same problems I'm having and she has all her teeth intact...
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I did....
Seems quite unlikely. My husband is a physician and he said that it is totally ridiculous. I did have some bicuspids removed (adult) before I had my braces....so, it is interesting. My infertility is unexplained and I have had a heck of alot of tests!!!
I would take this with a grain of salt.... Good luck, Nik |
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well i'll add to this just becuz lol...i had braces as an adult...i had one lower front tooth pulled becuz of crowding midway thru the process...i had my braces finally removed in march of 07 and while i had no periods for the entire prior 2 years i was 5 months pregnant at the time...so while this would not have affected..ah hem pituitary development as i was 27 at the time if anything maybe braces made me fertile lol...i have no explanation for the how and why and would take that just as well as anything...i would get a second opinion for your son and ask your re's opinion as well...if it really bothers you ...the what if aspect...don't have them removed...always an option as well! good luck and good wishes!
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met 2001 married 2005 anovulatory, no menses no way! 11-06 DS born 7-07 (perfect) DH 30(is perfect )myself 30(not so much) HSG 3-09 left hydrosalpinx,hypothyroidism, pcos ovaries actively ttc with re jan 09 3 failed clomid cycles, 1 bfp clomid/iui cycle 6-22-09 beta 26 progesterone dropped6-26-09 ![]() injectible/iui#1 follistim/lupron 9-09 over stimmed injectible/iui #1 (take 2) 9-09 follies 16.3, 11.5, e2 243 iui 10-12(31mil),10-13(50mil) start progesterone10-14 beta 10-26 11-11 lap,l/s salpingectomy/hysteroscopy dye test shows no hydrosalpinx?? 11-17 post-op all is well begin provera 11-18 20 units of lupron begin 11-21 due 11-24ish annual gyn exam as well(oh the indignity of it all)dec follistim iui jan 2010 ivf ![]() |
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