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But a new RE that I recently got a 2nd opinion from said that he'd like to try the AACEP (Antagon/Antagonist Conversion Estrogen Priming Protocol) on me since I am considered a "poor responder". It is supposedly a very new protocol developed by SIRM/Dr Sher that was published in the February edition of Fertility and Sterility and it's catching on at practices across the US! He said that if I had gone to see him a year ago, he would have put me on the Microdose Flare Protocol, but now that the ACCEP Protocol has been developed, it is replacing the Flare and they are seeing very good results with it in poor responders and even normal responders. He's done it with 3 women in his practice since Feb. and all 3 have gotten pg.-1 did miscarry, the other 2 still pg. Some of the girls on the Forum have used it I've noticed. Food for thought )
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Me: 31, Endo stage 1-2 & Inherant Egg Quality Problem/Genetics DH: perfect in every way TTC: 15 months 6 months on our own-BFN, suspect 1 m/c 3 months Femara-BFN Lapo, discovered endo and removed 2 months Femara with IUI-BFN 1st IVF-July/Aug.-10 eggs retrieved, 3 fertilized (ICSI) fair quality-BFN #1 2nd IVF-Oct./Nov.-10 eggs retrieved again, 1 fertilized (ICSI) fair quality-BFN #2 Moving on to DE IVF... |
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We did it twice and it didn't work, but we got a lot of eggs and embryos.
We then did luteal lupron and it worked. Since my wife has endo I think luteal lupron works better. I know several women who got pg on MDL however, so it is a good protocol. |
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For my last IVF, I had no lupron. This time, I am doing the MDF protocol. I only had 8 antral follicles when the RE counted, so this is why. I did, however, respond pretty well without lupron.
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Me (35)- PCOS, Mild endometriosis, luteal phase defect DH (35)- perfect in every way Adopted DD (11) Levi the labradoodleTTC 1 year 11/07: HSG - 1 tube blocked 12/07: Lap removed mild scarring from endometriosis 03/20 -IUI #1 with gonal-f, Ovidrel 04/15 -IUI #2 with gonal-f,Ovidrel ![]() IVF #1 05/02 - Start BCPs 05/15 Hysterospcopy 06/02 - Started stims (gonal-f, menopur) 06/11 Trigger with 16 mature follies 06/13 - ER - 10 , started Lovenox 06/16 ET - transferred 1 grade A 8 cell, 1 compacting morula, 1 grade B 8 cell. Froze 2 blasts. 06/27 - Beta August 2008 - FET No embies survived thawing process. IVF#2 Early January http://www.dazzlejunction.com/] [/url] |
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I did MDL this last cycle and it worked for me. In our research after my first failed IVF, dh found evidence of the antagonist cycle not leaving the uterus in as good a condition for the embryo to stick. And it ended up that while my lining was not very good the first IVF - it was like barely a 7 at retrieval - the second was much better being almost a 10 at retrieval.
Along with MDL, we also had two endometrial biopsies done and I had been taking dhea for two months by the time of my retrieval. We also bd'd the night before transfer and I stopped all exercise during my cycle. My re said the other day that the quality of my embryos was just better this time which I would guess is due to either the dhea or the MDL. I wish you the best of luck! Hope this your cycle!
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Me (34) high FSH - 13.3, hypothyroid DH (52) very high sperm count, but low motility. ICSI necessary Neither one of us has children and I have never been pregnant. Hopeful and ![]() 1st IVF begins 4/08 day 2 FSH 10.6 4/7 - 4/21 BCP 4/25 - 5/6 - Menopur 75U and 150U, Follistim 450U 4/30 - 5/6 - Ganirelix 5/8 - ER - 9 eggs retrieved, 7 mature, 4 fertilized ![]() 5/11 - ET - transferred two 8 cell embies - a grade 1 and grade 2!! ![]() 5/22 - ![]() 5/25 - begin taking 100mg dhea per day 2nd IVF begins 6/24 Lupron Flare day 2 FSH 10.6 6/26 - 7/13 BCP 7/7 - Endometrial Scratching 7/11 - Endometrial Scratching 7/16 - 7/27 MicroLupron 7/18 - 7/26 Follistim, Menopur 7/28 - ER - 8 eggs, 7 mature, 5 fertilized. 7/31 - ET - transferred 3 grade 1, 8 cell embryos 8/9 - HPT - holy smokes! yay!8/11 - Beta - I'M !! |
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Wow, Maggie! Congrats on being
! Hearing your story gives me hope. I'm also taking DHEA, but only 75mg. I hope that either the MDL or the DHEA will give me better quality embryos too! When do you find out how many you have in there? Or do you already know?
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Me-31-MTHFR-dx 4/08, old ovaries and bad egg quality DH-31 (perfect!) TTC since 2/06 *2 failed IUIs w/Clomid *2 failed IUIs w/ Gonal F *IVF #1 (Feb. 2008)- Antagonist Protocol BCPs 12/19-1/8 AND 1/14-2/2 2/21-Egg Retrieval...8 eggs (5 fertilized/3 not mature) 2/24 Transfer day! We transferred 3 perfect 8-cell embies! 3/10-BETA - BFN ![]() IVF #2 (June 2008)- Antagonist Protocol 6/15 ER- 9 eggs retrieved/3 mature/only 2 fertilized ![]() 6/20 ET- 1 blast 6/30 Beta-BFN AGAIN! IVF #3 (September 2008)- Microdose Lupron Protocol ****NEW RE**** *Taking DHEA and doing Acupuncture* 8/6 to 9/4 BCPs 9/25- ER- 9 eggs (3 mature/3 fertilized) 9/28- ET- 3 embies 10/10-BFN
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Have you heard of anyone who it hasn't helped? Is it suppose to increase your antral follicle count or the follicle count after yoru start stimming? Did you do any other supplements in addition to the DHEA, such as Royal Jelly or Bee Pollen? Thank you!!
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Me: 31, Endo stage 1-2 & Inherant Egg Quality Problem/Genetics DH: perfect in every way TTC: 15 months 6 months on our own-BFN, suspect 1 m/c 3 months Femara-BFN Lapo, discovered endo and removed 2 months Femara with IUI-BFN 1st IVF-July/Aug.-10 eggs retrieved, 3 fertilized (ICSI) fair quality-BFN #1 2nd IVF-Oct./Nov.-10 eggs retrieved again, 1 fertilized (ICSI) fair quality-BFN #2 Moving on to DE IVF... |
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Hey wishing - we found out this last wednesday that there is one little bean in there and we saw a heartbeat. I think it was the most amazing I'd ever seen. Dh stood next to me looking at the monitor and crying his eyes out.
I will be watching your cycle and sending prayers your way. I really wish you the best of luck and am sending you lots of ![]() ![]() ![]()
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Me (34) high FSH - 13.3, hypothyroid DH (52) very high sperm count, but low motility. ICSI necessary Neither one of us has children and I have never been pregnant. Hopeful and ![]() 1st IVF begins 4/08 day 2 FSH 10.6 4/7 - 4/21 BCP 4/25 - 5/6 - Menopur 75U and 150U, Follistim 450U 4/30 - 5/6 - Ganirelix 5/8 - ER - 9 eggs retrieved, 7 mature, 4 fertilized ![]() 5/11 - ET - transferred two 8 cell embies - a grade 1 and grade 2!! ![]() 5/22 - ![]() 5/25 - begin taking 100mg dhea per day 2nd IVF begins 6/24 Lupron Flare day 2 FSH 10.6 6/26 - 7/13 BCP 7/7 - Endometrial Scratching 7/11 - Endometrial Scratching 7/16 - 7/27 MicroLupron 7/18 - 7/26 Follistim, Menopur 7/28 - ER - 8 eggs, 7 mature, 5 fertilized. 7/31 - ET - transferred 3 grade 1, 8 cell embryos 8/9 - HPT - holy smokes! yay!8/11 - Beta - I'M !! |
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