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Old 08-30-2008, 05:34 PM
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Hi all, I feel guilty because I got upset and started crying when I found out that my husband's sister is pregnant with her second child. She has a two year old son. I have had 2 miscarriages and am about to go through IVF. I am happy for her but I am so jealous that it is not me. Are these normal feelings?
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DH 34 Healthy
no kids
2 furbabies (cats)

April 2007 Clomid cycle

June 2007 Miscarriage due to triple trisomy/D&C

November & December 2008 Clomid cycles

January 2008 Clomid cycle

March 2008 Miscarriage/D&C Chromosomes normal, no maternal autoimmune or clotting disorders detected. Maternal and Paternal karyotype normal. No explanation for M/C.

Clomid Cycles May 2008, June 2008

FSH/IUI Cycle July 2008. Cancelled due to too many mature follicles (7).

1st IVF cycle September 2008. BCP, Lupron, Gonal-F and Menopur.


2nd IVF cycle planned for February 2009
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Old 08-30-2008, 05:40 PM
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Oh sweetie, YES, those are normal feelings! It is SO HARD to deal with the "big news" when it's not us.......sending you a big !!! Hang in there, take the time you need, and give yourself some space from the excitement....you've got to protect yourself and I hope your family understands. good luck to you!
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Old 08-30-2008, 05:42 PM
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Oh sweetie. Your feelings are so normal. It is just so hard to understand why God allows it to be so easy for some women to have babies and so difficult for others of us. I'm sure you are happy for your sil, but still grieving and feeling it is unfair.

On my way to my hysteroscopy and trial transfer yesterday, I stopped be the hospital to see a friend who just had a baby. The baby was there in the hospital room with her, and I cried. I cried in part because it was such a beautiful thing to see this new life, and in part because I was grieving my lack of a baby.

I'm so grateful to have all of these ladies on the forum, because we can all understand these feelings. Please don't feel guilty. I think we have all been there.
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11/07: HSG - 1 tube blocked
12/07: Lap removed mild scarring from endometriosis

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05/15 Hysterospcopy
06/02 - Started stims (gonal-f, menopur)
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06/13 - ER - 10 , started Lovenox
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Old 08-30-2008, 06:02 PM
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Oh hunny, it's completely normal. It is so tough. I am the same way... so if we aren't normal, we can be abnormal together. *HUGS*... I hope your time comes very soon. Stick around the forum... It truly makes you feel better! *MORE HUGS*
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Old 08-30-2008, 06:09 PM
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You are definatly not alone. My cousin's girlfriend found out she was pregnant a month before i did. Once we lost ours i kept thinking it was so unfair and i didnt want to see them. Now they want me to be godmother, talk about a slap in the face. I know we will all have our day but it's hard when it's always someonelse.
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12/5: 1st u/s thick lining and large ovaries but no sac yet,
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12/11: Beta #4 - 14742, progesterone still greater than 40
2nd u/s we see 2 sacs, IT'S TWINS!!!! WOO HOO
12/18: 3rd u/s Fetus and Heartbeat seen in both sacs
12/26: 4th u/s heard hearbeats

3/3 both babies look good

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10/31- ER 17 eggs
11/5- ET
11/9,11/10,11/11,11/12, 11/13 + HPT's
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11/17- beta 531
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Old 08-30-2008, 06:58 PM
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I know exactly how you feel. Please don't feel guilty we have all been there. I hope you get your soon.

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IUI #1 5/06
IUI #2 6/06
IVF #1 8/06
8/9 ER 5 eggs
4 mature ICSI w/AH
8/12 ET 2 embies transfered none to freeze
8/24
8/30
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Start Stims 11/3
ER 11/13 15 eggs
ET 11/16 transferred 2 1 8 cell A & 1 7cell A
2 made it to freeze
11/28 1st Beta 265 Prog 159
11/30 2nd Beta 625
12/06 3rd Beta 3996 Prog 170
12/14 6 week u/s saw a beautiful heartbeat 120bpm. Baby measuring 6 weeks 4 days
Beautiful Baby Boy Born 8-2-07

FET 6/08 Cancelled -Ovulated while on Estrace
Fet 7/08
ET 7/11 1 8 Cell B & 1 7 Cell B
BETA 7/23
IVF #3 (9/08)
8/1 Start BCP
8/17 Start Lupron
8/29 Start Stims
9/8 ER 18 eggs
9/10 7 embies
9/11 ET 1 6 cell A & 1 7 cell C
9/12 None made it to freeze
9/23 1st Beta 256 Prog 241
9/25 2nd Beta 547 Prog 222
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Old 08-30-2008, 07:08 PM
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Feeling that way is completely normal. A week or so after my D&C I found out on the same day that a girl I sorta know from another forum who had been married for like a minute was pregnant (and got that way after getting married) and that my cousin and his wife had just had a baby. I didn't even know she had been pregnant.

Allow yourself to feel any way you want to on a given day. Just be careful not to let those negative emotions take over your life. You'll get your baby and when you do, it'll make everything you've gone through completely worth it.

Best of luck to you in your upcoming IVF cycle.
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2007
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Ectopic pregnancy

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3/5 - new cycle - Clomid and Follistim
3/31 - positive hpt
4/2 - 1st beta - 48.5! Estrogen 324, Progesterone 35.9
4/4 - 2nd beta - 113.8!
4/7 - 3rd beta - 487!!
4/11 - 4th beta - 2987
4/16 - 1st u/s - 1 beautiful healthy peanut in exactly the right place!
4/23 - 2nd u/s - everything still great. Saw and heard the heartbeat! 122bpm!
5/6 - 3rd u/s- Absolutely amazing. Measuring 8w6d, 172bpm; released to OB
6/4 - Everything is still perfect. Measuring right on track, hb 161bpm
6/26 - Couldn't be better; 148bpm
7/21 - Anatomy Scan!! It's a GIRL!
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Old 08-30-2008, 07:41 PM
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You're completely normal. My BFF got PG after 2 mos trying. I was so jealous! I put on a happy face in front of her, but sobbed to DH when we got home. He gried too and it was the first time he cried over our struggle. FYI, I did get mostly over it. She knows our struggles and is the only friend I tell any of the details to. She lost the baby last week and I've been able to support her through that as well.
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IVF #1: Nov '08
9/5- start BCPs
10/2- 2 large cysts found- Cycle canceled for the month
10/27 Cyst gone!
11/9- ER- 9 retrieved-4 fertilized - they "forgot" to ICSI?!
11/12- 3 day transfer of 2 Embabies- 7 & 8 cell both w/ less than 5% fragmentation
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Old 08-30-2008, 09:25 PM
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Yes it is normal, during stims for my 3rd IVF I went to a BF's b-day party and had to leave crying because someone there anounced she was pregnant.
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10/15 ET (2 grade 3 embies) none to freeze
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Old 08-30-2008, 10:40 PM
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Those feelings are COMPLETELY normal. Just feel what you feel and cry if you need to. We're all here for you to vent to and we all get it. I hope your first IVF works for you!
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4/07-11/07 - 5 rounds chlomid

IVF #1 in July '08
7/5 start Lupron
7/9 baseline - 22 follicles
7/12 start stims
7/23 ER got 8 mature eggs - 7 fertilized!
7/26: 3dt of 2 "pretty good" embryos w/ fragmentation, 1 frozen blast left
8/6 Beta

FET #1 in Aug/Sept '08
9/11 transferred 1 blast
9/20 + HPT and Beta #1 = 31
9/23 Beta #2 = 86
9/26 Beta #3 = 362
10/8 u/s at 6w5d, saw empty gestational sack measuring 5w1d
10/15 f/u u/s same results
10/20 D&C


In the meantime, RJ, BP, propolis, CoQ-10 & a multi for me, C, E, & almonds for DH

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Old 08-31-2008, 08:18 AM
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thank you girls!

Thank you all so much for caring and taking the time to post. It has been especially hard lately because my due date is fast approaching (Oct 3) for the last pregnancy I lost. It means alot to me that you all know what I am going through and empathize with me. Thanks again for your kind words!
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2 furbabies (cats)

April 2007 Clomid cycle

June 2007 Miscarriage due to triple trisomy/D&C

November & December 2008 Clomid cycles

January 2008 Clomid cycle

March 2008 Miscarriage/D&C Chromosomes normal, no maternal autoimmune or clotting disorders detected. Maternal and Paternal karyotype normal. No explanation for M/C.

Clomid Cycles May 2008, June 2008

FSH/IUI Cycle July 2008. Cancelled due to too many mature follicles (7).

1st IVF cycle September 2008. BCP, Lupron, Gonal-F and Menopur.


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Old 08-31-2008, 08:21 AM
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Hi all, I feel guilty because I got upset and started crying when I found out that my husband's sister is pregnant with her second child. She has a two year old son. I have had 2 miscarriages and am about to go through IVF. I am happy for her but I am so jealous that it is not me. Are these normal feelings?

Those are ABSOLUTELY normal feelings. I have felt this way a hundred times. Been TTC for 2 years, have had 1 full year of treatment (including 3 IVFs) and every time I hear a new friend or relative is pregnant, I cry. In fact there are a few friends with newborns that I haven't even seen yet because it's too hard.

Please don't feel guilty. This is a VERY hard time. You need to do EVERYTHING for yourself right now. Don't worry about anyone else's feelings (except maybe your DH ).

Best of luck to you.
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2 Rounds of Clomid/IUI - BFN
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9 eggs retrieved, 7 fertilized
2 top grade embryos transferred
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IVF #2: ER 6/16, T 6/19
5 eggs retrieved, 3 fertilized
2 top grade embryos transferred
- Will this EVER work???

*1 Month Off*

IVF #3: ER 8/18, T 8/21
7 eggs retrieved, 3 fertilized
3 embryos transferred - 2 great and 1 average
Assisted hatching this time!
BFP - bio-chemical pregnancy

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Old 08-31-2008, 10:06 AM
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IF has a hard emotional burden on us. Try to change that experience into something positive: visualize that YOU WILL BE PREGNANT TOO!!
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TTC for 2.5 years
2007: Tried Clomid for 3 cycles, all BFN
9/11/07: DH diagnosed by RE

IUI #1:
1/18: Began Bravelle shots for 9 days
1/28: IUI; 2 follies 2/8: ; u/s found cysts
IUI #2: Converted to B2B IUIs
3/18: Baseline U/S. 3/19 -21: 3 Bravelle (225 mg)
3/22-24: 2 Bravelle (150 mg); u/s shows 4 follies (R and L). 3/25: Novarel (10,000 USP) shot
3/26: IUI (still 4 follies there: 20 - 22) 3/27: IUI
4/6: 4/7: u/s found cysts; BCPs (Loestrin). 4/28: u/s showed I am cyst free. 5/3: 5/5: BCPs (Loestrin). 5/31: Bravelle 4*75, Lupron 0.1

June 08: IVF/ICSI
ER: 6/10
ET: 6/10 (ZIFT 2 embabies), 6/12 (regular 1 2-cell)
6/24: Beta #1 83, 6/26: Beta #2 232, 7/3: Beta #3 1,500;7/7: U/S #1 One sac ; 7/17: U/S shows heartbeat but small sac; 7/24: U/S no heartbeat; 7/25: D&C at 8 weeks

10/02: auto-inumne testing NORMAL.

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Old 08-31-2008, 10:30 AM
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the feelings your having are completely normal. i have had similiar situations it seems everyone around me gets pregnant without trying and everything is perfect...for them...why does it have to be so hard for some of us? it is not that you are not happy for your sisiter in law its just in your heart the thought remains when is it my turn??!! focus on your self and your upcoming cycle...maybe you will be able to be pregnant at the same time!!
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