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Old 05-26-2009, 05:15 PM
nms17 nms17 is offline
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Bad news and I am crushed

I am traveling today and just came back to find out that AF had arrived. I am crushed needless to say and not sure where to go from here. HAve any of you out there been in this spot and what did you do from here?

This is the first time we ever made it to Transfer but what could be wrong here? I dont know enough about DE but worried that my RE might push this as a next step.

Are there any diagnostic tests I should be doing to understand why implantation did not take place?

I feel like such a failure right now.
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Me- 39 Unexplained
DH- 39 Normal (one previous child 4 yrs old)

IVF #1 Ganirelix Acetate Protocol
Started Stims 3/8 (225 Follistim, 150 Menopur)
ER - 4 eggs
IVF cancelled - no eggs fertilized


IVF #2 Microdose Flare Protocol
4/6 - start BCP's (prenatal vitamins, royal jelly etc)
Accupuncture 2x per week for last 2 months
4/26 Start 40 Units Microdose Lupron 2x daily
4/28 Start Follistim 225AM/150PM & 150 Menopur
5/11 - ER - 10 eggs, 4 fertilized with ICSI
5/14 - ET-3 (2 8 cell, grade1, 1 7 cell, grade2)
5/29 - Beta - BFN

IVF#3 Microdose Flare Protocol
7/14-last day of BCP's
7/31 -ER 9 Eggs
8/1 - Fert Report 4 mature, 3 fertilized.
8/3 - Transfer of 3 good looking 8 cell embabies. Great Day!
8/18 - Beta BFN


November- start DE Cycle
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Old 05-26-2009, 05:46 PM
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I'm so sorry I had similar problems with both stim response and embryos not implanting. My RE brought up DE but we decided to move onto adoption. I do know that DE cycles have higher success rates. My RE could tell my egg quality was poor from the number of follicles containing fluid filled cysts at retrieval. I had 22 eggs on scan and only had 7 collected. Don't give up hope and ask your doctor if he/she thinks it is an egg quality issue. My RE was certain of this considering my DH had high normal counts and 6/7 eggs fertilized. My embryos also appeared "perfect" but he says "perfect" embryos sometimes don't implant because they are not so perfect in reality.
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DH: 28 perfect
DS: 2 1/2

TTC since 10/04
7/06- follistim/IUI
3/13/07- IT'S A BOY!

TTC #2 since 7/07
2/08-2/09- 5 IUI's, IVF, FET-
5/09- foster/adopt process started
11/09- Should have final approval to adopt
Clomid/follistim cycle (Oct)-
Clomid/follistim cycle (Nov)- 11/17- follicles (10, 10, 13, 15) u/s 11/20 (18,24) 11/22-IUI
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Old 05-27-2009, 06:09 AM
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I hate to be such a downer when so many of us come to this forum for hope but I feel like I have no where else to turn. My husband seems to not be as upset as I am that my period has arrived. I am literally crushed and feel like a failure. All sorts of crazy things run through my mind like but most of all I feel like a failure as a woman. Everyone around me has kids (incluing my husband) and they have no idea how isolating this feels. I literally want to to call in sick from work but I cannot and am going to have to make the best of the day.

What would anyone recommned as a next step? Are there tests that can be done to check why this happened? We did not have any eggs to freeze.
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Me- 39 Unexplained
DH- 39 Normal (one previous child 4 yrs old)

IVF #1 Ganirelix Acetate Protocol
Started Stims 3/8 (225 Follistim, 150 Menopur)
ER - 4 eggs
IVF cancelled - no eggs fertilized


IVF #2 Microdose Flare Protocol
4/6 - start BCP's (prenatal vitamins, royal jelly etc)
Accupuncture 2x per week for last 2 months
4/26 Start 40 Units Microdose Lupron 2x daily
4/28 Start Follistim 225AM/150PM & 150 Menopur
5/11 - ER - 10 eggs, 4 fertilized with ICSI
5/14 - ET-3 (2 8 cell, grade1, 1 7 cell, grade2)
5/29 - Beta - BFN

IVF#3 Microdose Flare Protocol
7/14-last day of BCP's
7/31 -ER 9 Eggs
8/1 - Fert Report 4 mature, 3 fertilized.
8/3 - Transfer of 3 good looking 8 cell embabies. Great Day!
8/18 - Beta BFN


November- start DE Cycle
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Old 05-27-2009, 09:41 AM
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I just wanted to give you a hug and let you know that you are not alone. There are knowledgable ladies in this group and I am hoping someone comes a long and offers you some input. I can relate to you on an emotional level though. I know what it is like to feel like you are in this alone because everyone around you has children. We are not any less of a woman though. Failing an IVF cycle is so devastating.
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DH 35-No issues
1 fur baby

TTC since July 2007

IVF #1 Feb '09 with AH
30 eggs retrieved & 23 fertilized
3dt of 3 perfect looking embryos,
20 frozen at day 3


FET #1 Mar '09 with AH
3dt of 3 perfect looking morulas
17 frozen embabies remaining


Myomectomy June '09
Removed 10 fibroids. 9 inside uterus and 1 outside.

FET #2 Sept 09
ET 9/4 transfered 3 embabies.
HPT 9/15

#1 Beta 9/16 502
#2 Beta 9/18 1246
10/1 u/s 3 sacs and 3 heartbeats!
10/2 another u/s due to a scare saw 2 sacs and 2 hbs
10/30 No fetal activity
11/5 D&C scheduled
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Old 05-27-2009, 03:27 PM
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nms17 ---Sorry for your loss!
Where are you in VA? What clinic are you going to? Maybe get a second opinion... different protocol might work?

I think we(on this board) have all felt like you are feeling. It hurts...really bad... you just have to pick yourself up and keep trying...
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Me- 35 past tests
DH-37 low morphology Oct 2008
TTC 4yrs
-Cocker-12yrs
-Black Lab- 11yrs

1st IVF- Cetrotide Cycle-ER 12/12/2008 18 eggs;10 fert with ICS; 9 good; 2 3d et (no AH 7 frozen)
1st FET- 2/19/2009 Canceled
2nd FET 3/27/2009 Natural w/ trigger 3/23- 10 triple lining; trigger 3/27-FET-3 embys ah- had to thaw all 7 - 4/8/2009
2nd IVF -- Going to work this time!!!
April 15 Cetrotide and Provera- April 23 Follistim 2x day and Overdril
ER- 5/1/09- 10 eggs 7 fert ET 5/6/09- took home 2 blasts -none frozen HPT -ALL WEEK BFN
BETA 5/15 (9dp5dt)103 shocked! BETA 5/18(12dp5dt) 556, BETA 5/20(14dp5dt)1400, BETA & u/s 5/22(16dp5dt)- 3500 ONE SAC and Yolk
5/29 u/s- 2 SACS and 2 Yolks- no heartbeats yet!!! -
6/5 7w u/s -2 babies with heartbeats 6w6d and 6w4d
6/18 - 1st OB appt
April/May Calender ivftime: April 2009
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Old 05-27-2009, 03:30 PM
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nms - I am so sorry...
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Initials - SB
TTC for 13 Months
Me - 38 / Hot younger hubby - 35
Two furbaby boxers
in September 2008
Lost pregnancy - we'll see you in heaven little one
Antagonist Protocol
Start stimming May 23
ER - June 3 (five little embies and only four fertilized)
ET - June 8 (one morula, one blast)
POAS June 15
June 17 - Beta 1 - 200
June 19 - Beta 2 - 487
Ultrasound - July 9 - TWINS!!! Both perfect size and strong heartbeats

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Old 05-27-2009, 07:48 PM
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I wanted to say thank you to all of you wonderful women who responded to me as it really made me feel as if there are others who know what this feels like.

I am in VA and am at Shady Grove Fertility. I have heard about something called Estrogen Priming Protocol. No idea if Shady Grove does this.

Thank you so much - this has been a bright spot in a not so great day...
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Me- 39 Unexplained
DH- 39 Normal (one previous child 4 yrs old)

IVF #1 Ganirelix Acetate Protocol
Started Stims 3/8 (225 Follistim, 150 Menopur)
ER - 4 eggs
IVF cancelled - no eggs fertilized


IVF #2 Microdose Flare Protocol
4/6 - start BCP's (prenatal vitamins, royal jelly etc)
Accupuncture 2x per week for last 2 months
4/26 Start 40 Units Microdose Lupron 2x daily
4/28 Start Follistim 225AM/150PM & 150 Menopur
5/11 - ER - 10 eggs, 4 fertilized with ICSI
5/14 - ET-3 (2 8 cell, grade1, 1 7 cell, grade2)
5/29 - Beta - BFN

IVF#3 Microdose Flare Protocol
7/14-last day of BCP's
7/31 -ER 9 Eggs
8/1 - Fert Report 4 mature, 3 fertilized.
8/3 - Transfer of 3 good looking 8 cell embabies. Great Day!
8/18 - Beta BFN


November- start DE Cycle
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Old 05-27-2009, 07:54 PM
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nms - I am so sorry. Sending you
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DH: 36 - low count, motility & morphology
TTC since April 2007

5 IUI's - 4 's & 1

IVF#1 w/ ICSI:
Low Beta = 22 -


IVF#2 w/ ICSI:
10/30 - ER - 17 eggs - 13 mature - 8 fertilized
11/2 - ET @ 9:30am - 2 embabies - 8 cell grade 2 and 6 cell grade 2
11/5 - WE HAVE ONE SNOWBABY!
11/6 - P4 check - over 40 - they said it was EXCELLENT!
11/13 - BETA #1 @ 11dp3dt = 140 P4 = 32.6
11/17 - BETA #2 @ 15dp3dt = 435
11/21 - BETA #3 @ 19dp3dt = 1626
NO MORE BETA's - NEXT STEP ULTRASOUND
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Old 05-27-2009, 08:07 PM
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so sorry you are feeling this pain!! I wish we never had or have to deal with IF.

P.S Get a second opinion, a fresh couple of eyes sometimes does the trick, not every RE believes in the same protocols out there.

Take your time to heal.
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Me: 27 Boderline MTHFR and NK cells
TTC: 4+ years
Married: 6yrs
2 IUI 03/07-: BFN

05/07: IVF #1
09/07: IVF #2 "Antogonist"
02/08: FET #1

IVF #3: New RE: SIRM NYC
BCP's: start 11/2
Lupron and Dex 0.75mg: 11/12
Garnirelix: 11/20
Follistim 300 units: 11/27
ER: 12/8-30 eggs/23 mature/18 fertilize
ET: 12/13-2 grade 2 blasts-also 6th Wedding Anniversary!
12/13-start lovenox and E2V and PIO
12/19, 12/20, 12/21 + hpt
Beta #1: 12/20 89.6, 190
U/S #1: 01/05 TWINS!!
HBS baby A 124 baby B 118!

U/S #3: 01/26 Baby A 171 Baby B 178
Thank You lord!! I'll be forever greatful!
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Baby A:GIRL Baby B:BOY
Sarah: 5lbs 17.8 in
Noah: 4.5lbs 18.1in
July 30TH, 2009
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Old 05-28-2009, 02:14 AM
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I am also a poor responder. I had 2 cycles cancelled before I made it to transfer then I only got 3 good eggs so don't feel like a failure becasue you are trying. Just don't give up hope.
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ME 35 tubal problems
DH 40-Low sperm morphology
2004 Ectopic pregnancy
5/08 IUI-chemical pg first beta 1050
7/08--IVF canc poor reponse
8/08--IVF converted poor respons
11/26 IVF (1) 6cAA, (2) 8cAB (3) 8cBA none to freeze
pending Beta 12/05
11/29-12/3--Neg Hpt
12/5/08++hpt #1 Beta 32.7 9dp3dt
12/08/08--#2 Beta 182 12dp3dtProg >20
12/10/08 -#3 Beta 578 14dp3dtProg 199
12/15/08--#4 Beta 4359 19dp3dt
12/22/08-6w1d u/s HR 117bpmBeta 16,800
12/31/08-7w3d U/S-HR 164 CRL 12mm Beta 38,600
1/9/09-8w4d HR 174, CRL 18.1mm Beta 81,000
1/20/06- 10W2d HR 180, CRL 34.2 MM
2/10/09-- 13W3d CRL 71.5mm
8/18/09 @ 1104 Matthew was born 8 pounds and 20 1/2 inches long.
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Old 05-28-2009, 06:03 AM
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yamensleh - Question - I see you did HPT right before your BETA and they wer negative? I did my first HPT this morning and it was negative. My BETA is tomorrow. What kind did you use? Is there hope fore me still? I am crushed right now.
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DH: 35 - Low Morphology
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Present-3 Years
2004-7 IUI's w/clomid - BFN
3/05-IVF #1, 10 eggs, 8 viable, 4 fertilized, 3 Trans. BFN
5/05-IVF #2, 10 eggs, 8 viable, 4 fertilized, 4 trans. BFP
2/06-My Awesome Son Jake was born
9/07-IVF #3, 1 Egg,
9/08 - Hysteroscopy and Laparoscopy for Endo
3/09 -IVF #4 - Failed Cycle - Ovulated
5/09 - IVF #5 - Retrieval 5/14
5/14/09 - 3 eggs!!!!
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Old 05-28-2009, 07:23 PM
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I am so sorry to hear that your AF showed up. I was looking around for you because of a different board you had made and was wondering what your result had been. I am going in tomorrow for my Beta but I'm not holding much hope for a positive. I have taken a HPT every day since 6dp3dt and every one has been negative. I keep that its just too low to show up, but I feel in the back of my mind that its just how its going to be. I too get these feelings of being a failure. The worst thing about finding out that you're not pregnant is telling the people who knew you were going through this. We also did not have any eggs make it to freezing stage. If I do get a negative tomorrow I am going to immediately set up a consultation with my RE to find out what is going on. I would suggest that you do that, or go to a different facility to get a 2nd opinion and find out other options. I have thought about suggesting DE, but I don't know what the cost of that would be. My insurance only pays so much money and I'm scared that I'm already reaching my limit.

What do you think you would like to do next? Do you think you could handle another IVF cycle?
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DH: 32 Low Motility
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2003-2009
Various procedures and tests for Infertility. All ended in BFN.
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