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Why would you want estrace??
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Nope. Because I don't believe we are being treated medically different. In fact, I would say 90% of IVF patients aren't given estrace or estrogen supplements, it certainly isn't required. The only things that are required for IVF are ovarian suppression, stimulation, trigger and progesterone. I am wondering why you think you need to be on estrace? Did your doctor recommend or is it something that you think everyone is on? Since we are on a clinical trial there are certain things that are not allowed (such as acupuncture and aspirin)...other things are allowed that are considered medically necessary (such as Lovenox/Heparin, Folic Acid, etc). So I would think if your doctor thinks that you need estrace than I don't think the study limits that. I would also say that this study is showing nearly a 75% success rate at our clinic and overall most clinics are showing a HUGE success increase and I don't think any of us are on estrace. I'm a purist, so why put something in your body that isn't needed??
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Kristen ![]() Me - 34 (APS, double hetero MTHFR - 677 and 1298) DH - 37 (MF, ~ 1 Mill, 2% morphology) SS - 13 yrs!!! IVF/ICSI #1 (Serono Clinical Trial): 11 eggs retrieved, 6 mature, only 1 fertilized IVF/ICSI #2 (Duramed Clinical Trial): 6/16 - ER (22 retrieved, 18 ICSI'd, 10 fertilized) 6/21 - Transferred 2 Grade 4AA Blasts!! (start Lovenox), SIX totsicles!! 6/29 - EPT Digital - (8dp5dt)6/30 - Beta #1 - 101 7/2 - Beta #2 - 192 7/7 - Beta #3 - 984 7/18 - IT'S IDENTICAL TWINS!!! ONE SAC, TWO HEARTBEATS!! Measuring 6w1d, Baby A HB 107, Baby B HB 111 8/25 - 12 week U/S - Baby A HB 158, Baby B HB 155, both measuring perfectly at 12w0d!! Released to OB!!! ![]() http://www.myspace.com/passionscientist |
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I'm starting to get antsy over here!!!! WHere's the beta! I hope you have some fabulous news to report!!! Courtney - Can't wait for your beancount!!! Victoria - Congrats on being PUPO x 2!!!!
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Kristen ![]() Me - 34 (APS, double hetero MTHFR - 677 and 1298) DH - 37 (MF, ~ 1 Mill, 2% morphology) SS - 13 yrs!!! IVF/ICSI #1 (Serono Clinical Trial): 11 eggs retrieved, 6 mature, only 1 fertilized IVF/ICSI #2 (Duramed Clinical Trial): 6/16 - ER (22 retrieved, 18 ICSI'd, 10 fertilized) 6/21 - Transferred 2 Grade 4AA Blasts!! (start Lovenox), SIX totsicles!! 6/29 - EPT Digital - (8dp5dt)6/30 - Beta #1 - 101 7/2 - Beta #2 - 192 7/7 - Beta #3 - 984 7/18 - IT'S IDENTICAL TWINS!!! ONE SAC, TWO HEARTBEATS!! Measuring 6w1d, Baby A HB 107, Baby B HB 111 8/25 - 12 week U/S - Baby A HB 158, Baby B HB 155, both measuring perfectly at 12w0d!! Released to OB!!! ![]() http://www.myspace.com/passionscientist |
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estrace explained
Hi Kristen,
I was just confused by my clinic because they said they give all patients but those in the study estrogen. However, after my transfer my dr. mentioned that he wanted me on it. Hi nurse later called in a script for me. Today a different nurse from the practice called explaining that he must have gotten confused and didn't realize I was in the study and therefore I must not take the script he gave me. So anyway.....I was just worried by the fact that it is common practice for everone else who sees him to be prescribed it. But, if it's not necessary for a pregnancy then I will try to not worry about it!! I also took a hpt today and say a very faint line! My beta is 7/7. Hopefully it's not positive because of lingering hcg. |
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Suzy -
That's strange that he would prescribe estrogen to everyone...don't understand that but I'm no RE either. I checked and estrogen is not allowed as part of the study, but I wouldn't think it makes a difference honestly. Try not to worry about it since all of us on this thread going through the same trial as you are with the same requirements are not on it. And the success rate from just the people on this board is over 65% which is way better than most clinics in the country. Hope that helps ![]()
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Kristen ![]() Me - 34 (APS, double hetero MTHFR - 677 and 1298) DH - 37 (MF, ~ 1 Mill, 2% morphology) SS - 13 yrs!!! IVF/ICSI #1 (Serono Clinical Trial): 11 eggs retrieved, 6 mature, only 1 fertilized IVF/ICSI #2 (Duramed Clinical Trial): 6/16 - ER (22 retrieved, 18 ICSI'd, 10 fertilized) 6/21 - Transferred 2 Grade 4AA Blasts!! (start Lovenox), SIX totsicles!! 6/29 - EPT Digital - (8dp5dt)6/30 - Beta #1 - 101 7/2 - Beta #2 - 192 7/7 - Beta #3 - 984 7/18 - IT'S IDENTICAL TWINS!!! ONE SAC, TWO HEARTBEATS!! Measuring 6w1d, Baby A HB 107, Baby B HB 111 8/25 - 12 week U/S - Baby A HB 158, Baby B HB 155, both measuring perfectly at 12w0d!! Released to OB!!! ![]() http://www.myspace.com/passionscientist |
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Yeah!!! Congratulations Courtney!!!
Kari - Just the name of the procedure sounds painful so I can imagine it hurts!! Congrats on starting stims tomorrow!! You are next!! Woohoo!!
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Kristen ![]() Me - 34 (APS, double hetero MTHFR - 677 and 1298) DH - 37 (MF, ~ 1 Mill, 2% morphology) SS - 13 yrs!!! IVF/ICSI #1 (Serono Clinical Trial): 11 eggs retrieved, 6 mature, only 1 fertilized IVF/ICSI #2 (Duramed Clinical Trial): 6/16 - ER (22 retrieved, 18 ICSI'd, 10 fertilized) 6/21 - Transferred 2 Grade 4AA Blasts!! (start Lovenox), SIX totsicles!! 6/29 - EPT Digital - (8dp5dt)6/30 - Beta #1 - 101 7/2 - Beta #2 - 192 7/7 - Beta #3 - 984 7/18 - IT'S IDENTICAL TWINS!!! ONE SAC, TWO HEARTBEATS!! Measuring 6w1d, Baby A HB 107, Baby B HB 111 8/25 - 12 week U/S - Baby A HB 158, Baby B HB 155, both measuring perfectly at 12w0d!! Released to OB!!! ![]() http://www.myspace.com/passionscientist |
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Anybody else noticing the trend on the bean counts???
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to start BCPs!Nikki_tx - Nikki (TX) Austin clinic sah_mommy2three - Kristen (MI) BCPs Praying4my1st - Maribeth (TX) mjones - Megan (TX) Lupron start! Praying4my1st - Maribeth (TX): 7/18 Stims Start!!!: (Yippee!!)KDJAJ- Kari (TX): 7/4 Sarabeth2005 - Sara (TX): 74 Praying4my1st - Maribeth (TX): ER SheriS - Sheri (MD): 7/12 KDJAJ - Kari (TX): 7/14 Sarabeth2005 - Sara (TX): 7/15 Praying4my1st - Maribeth (TX): 8/12 ET SheriS - Sheri (MD): 7/17 KDJAJ - Kari (TX): 7/19 Sarabeth2005 - Sara (TX): 7/20 Praying4my1st - Maribeth (TX): 8/17 BETA #1 Hopeful23 (FL): 7/3 ===> Prog. Ring suzyque - Suz (MI): 7/7 ===> Prog. Gel vicperg - Victoria (CA): 7/14 ===> Prog. Ring Pregnant!! ![]() Heather77 - Heather (SC) ===> Prog. Ring Marcia9043 - Marcia (Dallas, TX) ===> Prog. Gel Melanee2255 - Melanee (UT) ===> Prog. Ring Babybearjmd - Janice (TX) ===> Prog. Ring JNIGirl - Jennifer (TX) ===> Prog. Ring HopeandFaith - Amber (TX) ===> Prog. Ring Holliej1181 - Hollie (TX) ===> Prog. Gel Tonyslove - Tina (TX) ===> Prog. Ring Hjones41180 - Heather (TX) ===> Prog. Ring jhlucas - Jean (TX) ===> Prog. Ring blvsolis - Brenda (TX) ===> Prog. Gel babydust*** - Mandi (TX) ===> Prog. Ring babywishes13 - (TX) ===> Prog. Gel Curbanovsky - Courtney (TX) ===> Prog. Ring Saschia - Shannon (AZ) ===> Prog. Gel Cheli - Cheli (TX) ===> Prog. Ring Chinadoll08 - Stacey (TX) ===> Prog. Ring Callygirl-InGeorgia - Stacey (GA) ===> Prog. Gel Passionscientist - Kristen (TX) ===> Prog. Gel Tanya (PA) ===> Prog. ??? Bean Count!!! Heather77 - Heather (SC) - 1 little bean! Marcia9043 - Marcia (Dallas, TX) - It's a BOY!!!! Melanee2255 - Melanee (UT) - TWINS!!! Tonyslove - Tina (TX) - 1 little bean!! Babybearjmd - Janice (TX) - 1 little bean!!! JNIGirl - Jenifer (TX) - TWINS!!! HopeandFaith - Amber (TX) - 1 little bean!!! Holliej1181 - Hollie (TX): TWINS!! Hjones41180 - Heather (TX): 1 little bean!!! jhlucas - Jean (TX): TWINS!!!! blvsolis - Brenda (TX): 1 little bean!!! babydust*** - Mandi (TX): TWINS!!! babywishes13 - (TX): ONE LITTLE BEAN!!!! Curbanovsky - Courtney (TX): TWINS!!!! Saschia - Shannon (AZ): Cheli - Cheli (TX): 7/11 Chinadoll08 - Stacey (TX): 7/11 Callygirl-InGeorgia - Stacey (GA): 7/14 Passionscientist - Kristen (TX): 7/17 Tanya - Tanya (PA) Needs a HUG! ![]() Nursamp - Tomeka (SC): Prog. Gel Bottlebrunette - Heather (FL): Prog. Ring z_momma#1 - Zita (TX): Prog. Ring martieroo - Megan (TX): Prog. Ring Webb - Kari (KS): Prog. Ring Girlymech - Pris (FL): Prog Ring Rhart - Rose (TX): Prog. Gel lua - Lua (TX): Prog. Gel Indieblue - Faith (GA): Prog. Gel Melis74 - Melissa (FL): Prog. Ring HobbHubb - Molly (IL): Prog. Gel Nicoleg68 - Nicole (TX): Prog. Ring Prepping for a FET!! Martieroo - Megan (TX) Webb - Kari (KS) - 7/17 Lua - Lua (TX) Z_momma#1 - Zita (TX)
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Kristen ![]() Me - 34 (APS, double hetero MTHFR - 677 and 1298) DH - 37 (MF, ~ 1 Mill, 2% morphology) SS - 13 yrs!!! IVF/ICSI #1 (Serono Clinical Trial): 11 eggs retrieved, 6 mature, only 1 fertilized IVF/ICSI #2 (Duramed Clinical Trial): 6/16 - ER (22 retrieved, 18 ICSI'd, 10 fertilized) 6/21 - Transferred 2 Grade 4AA Blasts!! (start Lovenox), SIX totsicles!! 6/29 - EPT Digital - (8dp5dt)6/30 - Beta #1 - 101 7/2 - Beta #2 - 192 7/7 - Beta #3 - 984 7/18 - IT'S IDENTICAL TWINS!!! ONE SAC, TWO HEARTBEATS!! Measuring 6w1d, Baby A HB 107, Baby B HB 111 8/25 - 12 week U/S - Baby A HB 158, Baby B HB 155, both measuring perfectly at 12w0d!! Released to OB!!! ![]() http://www.myspace.com/passionscientist |
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Thanks everyone for the words of support. Feels nice to have a few cheerleaders in this bizarre process.
Quick question. Did everyone stay on bedrest for 72 hours after ET?
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Me - 34 normal DH - 44 count + motility ok, poor morphology TTC 2+ years Clomid + IUI (5 unsucessful cycles 2/2007 - 2/2008) IVF/ICSI #1 cycle BCPs : 5/25 - 6/12 Lupron: started 6/9 Bravelle/Menopur: 6/20 ER: 6/30 9 follicles, 5 mature, 2 fertilized Progesterone Ring ET: 7/3 Transferred two grade a, 8 cell embryos #1 Beta: 7/14
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That's so cute about our bean count trend!! One, twins, one, twins!!! LOL!! Can't wait to see how it progesses!!!
Courtney - YAY, for TWINS!!! Congrats!!! Yay for a successful ET Victoria!! PUPO X 2!!!
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Sheri (24) - "PCOS tendencies" DH (27) - MF 2003 - BFP - Blighted Ovum (D&C) TTC 1st since Sept. 2006 12/31/07 DH SA 3.8 mil motile sperm Feb. 08 - Complete work-up w/RE Day 3 BW (LH elevated), U/S-lots of antral follies, HSG normal IVF w/ICSI Duramed Clinical Trial!! 7/13 ER (27 eggs, 20 mature & ICSI'd, 13 fertilized) 7/18 ET - 1 (AB) blast (6 frozen blasts) 7/28 Beta - BFN **Currently getting more tests done for PCOS and thinking about an FET in the upcoming months** |
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Kristen - yes, I've noticed the trend too! I told my DH that a few days ago. I told him we were next for Twins so he better get ready! LOL!
Courtney - it was great to talk to you last night and I'm SO happy for you. I know you really wanted twins and you're so very blessed to have gotten them! Congrats again. Kari - Congrats on finally getting started today! Enjoy your burning sensation tonight! LOL! Any word from hopeful23???? Where is she? We're here for you no matter what... I have a four day weekend and I'm so excited. I took Monday off as vacation. My 30th b-day is Sunday. I always wanted a baby by the time I was 30 - I just didn't know it would still be in my tummy! I just feel so lucky to have had this chance to have such an affordable IVF cycle and come out ! I'm still feeling pretty tired, so I'm just going to take it easy. Just hoping the days pass quickly so I can see my bean count next Friday! Have a happy 4th of July everyone!
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Cheli-Houston Me: 30 DH: 34 Maggie (Chihuahua/Terrier mix)I have PCOS, TTC since Nov 2004 "unexplained infertility" Nov 2007 - IUI w/injectables IVF#1 (Duramed study at CORM - Houston) 5/30 started stims (150 follistim, 75 menopur) 6/2 1st E2- 231, 6/5 E2 - 1,310, 6/7 E2 - 4,038, cancelled follistim, 75 menopur, and HCG trigger 9pm 6/9 ER, 36 eggs retrieved, 18 mature and ICSI'd, 10 fertilized, 6/11 (5) 4-cell, (5) 2-cell, 6/12 (5) 8-cell, (5) 4-cell 6/14 ET transferred (1)3AA and (1)2AA blastocyte, 1 frozen embie 6/22 HPT- 6/23 Beta 1 (99), 6/25 Beta 2 (299), 6/30 Beta 3 (3787) 7/11 1st U/S - measured 6w4d, 7.1 mm, hb123 7/21 2nd U/S - measured 8w0d, 15.8mm, hb167 8/18 3rd U/S - measured 12w0d, 54mm, hb 169 8/20 4th U/S - 1st OB U/S |
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Congrats Courtney on the twins, how exciting!!!
Cheli you are next for twins Although after seeing Coutney's beta numbers they are almost identical to mine so I told DH that there is still a possibility that there could be more then one! I am actually feeling pretty good. I do get my 11 hours a sleep at night and a good nap mid afternoon (can you tell I am a teacher and have the entire summer off). My boobs hardly hurt anymore though, I figured it would be the opposite, but for some reason they feel relatively normal just a little tender. I still have the somewhat loose bowel every morning, I don't know if it is the magnesium in the calcium supplement, or the ring. It sure beats the other option! Our actual 4th of July is going to be pretty low key. My family is actually coming to Texas tomorrow for a 12 day visit so that will be a nice distraction and hopefully will make the days go by quickly so we can see our bean on Friday ![]()
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TTC since 10/01- Me-Endo DH-MF 1st IVF 6/27-ER 5 retrieved, 3 mature 6/30-ET-2 perfect embryos (1 10 cell and 1 8 cell) 7/11-Beta- IVF #2- 11/07-7 retrieved, 5 mature Transferred 3, 5 day blasts of great quality Beta- with a number of 4.7Chemical Pregnancy IVF#3 Study Participant at CORM 5/30-start stims 375 of Gonal-F and 75 Menopur 6/9- ER-7 retrieved, 6 mature, 4 fertilized 6/10-I got the RING! 6/12-Transferred 3 (2-8 cell A, 1 4-cell B) 6/23-Beta 1 106 6/26-Beta 2-261 6/30-Beta 3-1901 7/11-One beautiful bean! HB 124 measured 6w4d and 7mm!! 7/21-Right on track measuring 8w1d, 17mm HB 167!! This is is for us, I can just feel it!! God is so good to give us yet another opportunity! Currently highly considering International Adoption in Korea, but not wanting to give up on our dream of getting a beautiful ![]()
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where are you hopeful23?
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31 - Unexplained 31 - Male Factor ![]() ![]() TTC #1 for 5 l o n g years! Yes, that's 66 failed cycles! Pfft, and they say it could take 3 months Will I ever get my break???Uterine septum removed 6/2005 8/2005 Natural BFP! 9/2005 - M/C 2,3,5,6/2007 - IUIs (Unmedicated, all BFN) 1/08 & 5/08 - IVF w ICSI (2 more BFN) Royal Jelly / Bee Pollen daily as of 7/23 Still waiting for Follistim/Menopur donations so I can start cycling again ![]() IVF in October |
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Hey everyone!! Hope you all had a fabulous 4th of July!! DH and I are heading to Austin...woohoo!! So I'll catch up with you guys tomorrow night or Monday morning!
Hopeful23, I hope everything is ok... Talk to you all soon! ![]()
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Kristen ![]() Me - 34 (APS, double hetero MTHFR - 677 and 1298) DH - 37 (MF, ~ 1 Mill, 2% morphology) SS - 13 yrs!!! IVF/ICSI #1 (Serono Clinical Trial): 11 eggs retrieved, 6 mature, only 1 fertilized IVF/ICSI #2 (Duramed Clinical Trial): 6/16 - ER (22 retrieved, 18 ICSI'd, 10 fertilized) 6/21 - Transferred 2 Grade 4AA Blasts!! (start Lovenox), SIX totsicles!! 6/29 - EPT Digital - (8dp5dt)6/30 - Beta #1 - 101 7/2 - Beta #2 - 192 7/7 - Beta #3 - 984 7/18 - IT'S IDENTICAL TWINS!!! ONE SAC, TWO HEARTBEATS!! Measuring 6w1d, Baby A HB 107, Baby B HB 111 8/25 - 12 week U/S - Baby A HB 158, Baby B HB 155, both measuring perfectly at 12w0d!! Released to OB!!! ![]() http://www.myspace.com/passionscientist |
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Question about mixing stims...I have white-ish bubbles in my vial after I mix in the sterile water. I'm on Gonal-F and Luveris. It says to get a "clear solution" but I always get it clear (for the most part) with little bubbles kinda on the top of the solution. Is this ok? Am I doing something wrong?
Also, I had my E2 and follie check yesterday. My E2 was 155 and I have 11 follies on one side and 13 on the other but they are all still small. Sound about right?? I was stimming for 3 days at that point. I'm kinda nervous because my coordinator said I'm at risk for not stimming properly since I was "holding" on Lupron for a little longer than usual. I don't feel very nervous because of what you guys said...about how at CORM you stay on Lupron for 14 days...just have that little feeling in the back of my head that something is going to go wrong.
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Sheri (24) - "PCOS tendencies" DH (27) - MF 2003 - BFP - Blighted Ovum (D&C) TTC 1st since Sept. 2006 12/31/07 DH SA 3.8 mil motile sperm Feb. 08 - Complete work-up w/RE Day 3 BW (LH elevated), U/S-lots of antral follies, HSG normal IVF w/ICSI Duramed Clinical Trial!! 7/13 ER (27 eggs, 20 mature & ICSI'd, 13 fertilized) 7/18 ET - 1 (AB) blast (6 frozen blasts) 7/28 Beta - BFN **Currently getting more tests done for PCOS and thinking about an FET in the upcoming months** |
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Sounds like you are doing great Sheri! And I wouldn't worry about those little white bubbles- it's impossible to get every last drop-even as hard as we try! LOL When I went on Thursday I did ask my RE about being on the Lupron an extra week and she said it was fine and since it's such a small dose it's really hard to over suppress you that much that it would mess up your cycle. It was actually a good thing for me since I had 2 cysts and now they are both gone and she said my ovaries were nice and clear and looked beautiful. Now if my "beautiful" ovaries could just make me some "beautiful" eggs I would be thrilled! I started on 150 of Follistim and 1 vial of Menopur and I go back tomorrow just for bloodwork to see if I am moving along like I should. We were gone all weekend at the lake with my brother and Courtney and her cute little preggo belly! Happy 30th Birthday today CHELI!! I hope it was wonderful for you! I hope everyone had a nice weekend!
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Kari- Houston Me: 29 DH: 37 Married 9 yrs "Unexplained Infertility" IVF #1 2001- INJ/IUI 2002- IVF#2 2003- Baby 5/20/04 - My Miracle Little Man!! FET 2006- 7 cycles of INJ/IUI over all these years - all IVF #3 April 2008- Serono Studay at CORM- 28 eggs-none fertilized. IVF #4- July 2008- Duramed Study at CORM 5/27 5/29 Start BCP 6/13- Start Lupron 7/3- Cervical dilation 7/4- Start Stims 7/15- ER- 12 eggs, 10 mature & ICSI'd 7/16-9 out of 10 fertilized! I got the ring!! 7/20- ET- 2 blasts- 3AB &1AA 7/21- No babies in the freezer 7/29- Beta-
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