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Old 05-01-2008, 06:08 PM
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Has anyone taken Royal Jelly?

I'm taking it on my acupuncturist's advice for egg quality and I think it might be the nastiest thing I've ever drank.

Has anyone found a tolerable way to get it down?
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DH = 4% morphology.
TTC 2.5 years; 6 IUI, all BFN.
IVF #1 5/08 Cancelled! 6 follies, 2 dominant.
5/1/08 - Began taking Royal Jelly
6/08 Scheduled to cycle but cancelled due to cyst.
7/08 Lab closure. Microdose Lupron in 8/08.
7/23/08 - Conceived naturally! Beta 375 (14dpO)
7/26 - Beta 1635
8/13 - U/S. 1 bean, HB 133
9/17 - N.T., HB 155
11/13 - IT'S A BOY! DUE 4/1/09
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Old 05-01-2008, 06:15 PM
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I ate royal jelly that came premixed with honey. I thought it was delicious. I was going to put the honey in my tea or something but I ended up just eating it by the spoon full
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Trying Naturally for a few months
3 IUIs all BFN
Moving to IVF
March 3rd-24th BCP
Didn't start AF until April 3rd!!!
March 17th-April 14th Lupron
April 3rd-13th Stims
ER April 16th (moved from April 3rd)
ET April 19th
9 retrieved
5 mature, 3 intermediate, 1 immature
all 8 fertilized but only 3 made it to day 3???
Put 3 back (8cell "great", 8 cell "excellant", 8 cell "slight fragmentation")
Please god let it be my turn
1st Beta 5/02/08: 379!!!!!
2nd Beta at ER 5/10/08: 9,000
Emergency U/S at ER and RE: 1 sac with yolk
Possible Cyst RE was not too concerned
U/S 5/16/08 Saw the heartbeat

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Old 05-01-2008, 06:17 PM
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I took royal jelly (actual jelly) for three months prior my last IVF cycle. It was just a teaspoon full daily and it was not all that bad. It was organic from Whole Foods and needed to be refigerated.
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Old 05-01-2008, 06:28 PM
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Thanks for the quick responses! I will try eating it straight or putting it in tea. Before, I was mixing it in lukewarm water, per the jar's instructions, and it tasted strange to me.

Congrats on your daughter, Hopeful. I'm encouraged by your success, so I will stick with the bee pollen!
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TTC 2.5 years; 6 IUI, all BFN.
IVF #1 5/08 Cancelled! 6 follies, 2 dominant.
5/1/08 - Began taking Royal Jelly
6/08 Scheduled to cycle but cancelled due to cyst.
7/08 Lab closure. Microdose Lupron in 8/08.
7/23/08 - Conceived naturally! Beta 375 (14dpO)
7/26 - Beta 1635
8/13 - U/S. 1 bean, HB 133
9/17 - N.T., HB 155
11/13 - IT'S A BOY! DUE 4/1/09
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Old 05-01-2008, 06:34 PM
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Thanks for the quick responses! I will try eating it straight or putting it in tea. Before, I was mixing it in lukewarm water, per the jar's instructions, and it tasted strange to me.

Congrats on your daughter, Hopeful. I'm encouraged by your success, so I will stick with the bee pollen!


Just beware. The royal jelly that I had said to NEVER mix with anything hot!

5. How to Use and Store Royal Jelly
Royal Jelly tastes sour, hot and slightly bitter.It can be mixed with honey.milk or
fruit juice for better taste
Note: Never mix Royal Jelly with hot water or pour into a metal container as
this can damage the special properties in it
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Old 05-01-2008, 07:18 PM
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I started taking Royal Jelly and Bee Pollen (RJ/BP) per the Infertility Cure book 2 months ago. The Infertility Cure: How Nutrition Makes a Difference

The first month I didn't tell my RE I was taking it until after they did the follie count on 100mg Clomid...I had 7. The month before that (with the same amount of Clomid...I had 1-2 follies.). They were pretty surprised and I ended up confessing to my RE and the nurses...they were pretty enthusiastic about the results and told me to keep taking it.

I've been told by two RE's that I have "poor egg quality, low ovarian reserve, poor stimmer, etc., etc." I usually have a high E2 and FSH on CD3. With this last cycle my CD3 bloodwork came back in the normal range. I have never received a "normal" verdict in the 3+ years of IF. Again, my RE was shocked and told me to keep taking it ...they say your optimal result takes 3 months.

Anyway...I POAS tonight and actually got a BFP. I'm not counting my chickens yet...I'll do another in the morning and call the RE for bloodwork to confirm. I'm kind of in shock because after $30+G on IF treatments...$40 worth of RJ/BP has given me amazing results.

Here is the stuff I'm taking. I take a teaspoon in the AM and PM and wash it down with water. Both are mixed together in honey (no foul taste at all...it's just really sweet, thick/cloudy honey...I got a jar that tasted funny once and took it back...I think it was rancid). Fresh Royal Jelly & Pollen In by YS Royal Jelly/Honey Bee - VitaminShoppe.com

I'm the biggest advocate for this stuff I wish you all the best!
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Me - 35 = Poor egg quality/DOR/Poor Stimmer/High CD3 FSH and Estrogen (bla...bla...bla)
DH - 36 = Low & slow
TTC >3 years
Kitchen Sink Info:
#1 IVF/ICSI & AH = BFN
#2 IVF/ICSI & Thyroid meds = BFP (Ectopic)
#3 IVF/ICSI & Metformin 03/07 = BUST
02/02/08 = Started taking Royal Jelly & Bee Pollen in honey (it worked for me!!)
03/03/08 = 100 mg Clomid w/ DS (PreSeed+Instead Cups) = BFN
04/02/08 = 100 mg Clomid w/ DS (PreSeed+Instead Cups) = BFP
1st Beta --> 05/02/08 = 232 (15dpo)
2nd Beta --> 05/05/08 = 846
3rd Beta --> 05/07/08 = 1874
U/S --> 05/13/08 = (5w6d) Saw heartbeat/got pictures

U/S --> 05/22/08 = (7w1d) Heard heartbeat/141 bpm (measure 7w)
U/S --> 06/02/08 = (8w5d) Saw baby moving arms and legs/179 bpm (measure 8w5d)
Anatomy Scan --> 08/20/08 (20w) It's a BOY!!
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Old 05-01-2008, 07:31 PM
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I started taking Royal Jelly and Bee Pollen (RJ/BP) per the Infertility Cure book 2 months ago. The Infertility Cure: How Nutrition Makes a Difference

The first month I didn't tell my RE I was taking it until after they did the follie count on 100mg Clomid...I had 7. The month before that (with the same amount of Clomid...I had 1-2 follies.). They were pretty surprised and I ended up confessing to my RE and the nurses...they were pretty enthusiastic about the results and told me to keep taking it.

I've been told by two RE's that I have "poor egg quality, low ovarian reserve, poor stimmer, etc., etc." I usually have a high E2 and FSH on CD3. With this last cycle my CD3 bloodwork came back in the normal range. I have never received a "normal" verdict in the 3+ years of IF. Again, my RE was shocked and told me to keep taking it ...they say your optimal result takes 3 months.

Anyway...I POAS tonight and actually got a BFP. I'm not counting my chickens yet...I'll do another in the morning and call the RE for bloodwork to confirm. I'm kind of in shock because after $30+G on IF treatments...$40 worth of RJ/BP has given me amazing results.

Here is the stuff I'm taking. I take a teaspoon in the AM and PM and wash it down with water. Both are mixed together in honey (no foul taste at all...it's just really sweet, thick/cloudy honey...I got a jar that tasted funny once and took it back...I think it was rancid). Fresh Royal Jelly & Pollen In by YS Royal Jelly/Honey Bee - VitaminShoppe.com

I'm the biggest advocate for this stuff I wish you all the best!
Carie- COngrats! that's awesome! That is the same royal jelly and bee pollen that I got preggo on! Good luck to you!
I was also labeled a poor responder, low egg reserve and poor quality. I had the best cycle of my life this last one. I have acupuncure and bee products to thank for that.
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Old 05-01-2008, 07:40 PM
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Carie- COngrats! that's awesome! That is the same royal jelly and bee pollen that I got preggo on! Good luck to you!
I was also labeled a poor responder, low egg reserve and poor quality. I had the best cycle of my life this last one. I have acupuncure and bee products to thank for that.

Thanks!...we'll see how it goes tomorrow. I am so thankful for that stuff (RJ/BP)...I would be willing to be their poster child for free

I also drank decaf green tea every single day (I brew it in my coffee pot with 4 tea bags then put it in a pitcher in the fridge) and switched to organic foods....especially meat. You have to wonder if the organic meat made a difference in lowering my E2 since a lot of other meat is injected with hormones.

Congrats on having a little girl! (shhhhh
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Me - 35 = Poor egg quality/DOR/Poor Stimmer/High CD3 FSH and Estrogen (bla...bla...bla)
DH - 36 = Low & slow
TTC >3 years
Kitchen Sink Info:
#1 IVF/ICSI & AH = BFN
#2 IVF/ICSI & Thyroid meds = BFP (Ectopic)
#3 IVF/ICSI & Metformin 03/07 = BUST
02/02/08 = Started taking Royal Jelly & Bee Pollen in honey (it worked for me!!)
03/03/08 = 100 mg Clomid w/ DS (PreSeed+Instead Cups) = BFN
04/02/08 = 100 mg Clomid w/ DS (PreSeed+Instead Cups) = BFP
1st Beta --> 05/02/08 = 232 (15dpo)
2nd Beta --> 05/05/08 = 846
3rd Beta --> 05/07/08 = 1874
U/S --> 05/13/08 = (5w6d) Saw heartbeat/got pictures

U/S --> 05/22/08 = (7w1d) Heard heartbeat/141 bpm (measure 7w)
U/S --> 06/02/08 = (8w5d) Saw baby moving arms and legs/179 bpm (measure 8w5d)
Anatomy Scan --> 08/20/08 (20w) It's a BOY!!
Delivered at 38wk6d = 7lb 9oz 20 1/2in


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Old 05-01-2008, 08:31 PM
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I took Royal Jelly, but it was in a pill form, so not bad at all.
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2 Dogs (Lelu and Kenna) + 1 Cat (Killian)
9/07-11/07: 3 cycles of Clomid
4/1: First planned IUI
4/16:
Aug 15th: Natural Conception!!!!
Aug 15th: Beta 69
Aug 18th: Beta 169
Aug 20th: Beta 199
Aug 22nd: Beta 211, suspected ectopic
Sept 8th: Tube Ruptured, Emergency Surgery.
Feb 09 - IUI #2 + Injectables
Mar 09 -
3/5 Beta: 119 (11 dpo)
3/9 Beta: 902! (15 dpo)
3/11 Beta: 1950! (17 dpo)
3/19 U/S: TWINS!!!!
4/2 U/S: 2 Little Heartbeats!
6/15 U/S: Both babies 11 oz and perfect!
7/9 U/S: Both babdies 1 lb 4 oz and perfect!
8/14 U/S: Sloan - 2 lb 3 oz Jett - 2 lb 4 oz!
9/9 U/S: Sloan and Jett - 3 lbs 14 oz!
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Old 05-01-2008, 09:09 PM
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Wow, Carie! Congrats! I bet you're so excited right now.

You guys have really got me excited over the jelly. I wish I'd been clued onto it earlier. I have ER in a 23 days - hopefully that's long enough for the product to make a difference. If this cycle doesn't work, I'll definitely keep on it for the next. Thank you, bees!
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DH = 4% morphology.
TTC 2.5 years; 6 IUI, all BFN.
IVF #1 5/08 Cancelled! 6 follies, 2 dominant.
5/1/08 - Began taking Royal Jelly
6/08 Scheduled to cycle but cancelled due to cyst.
7/08 Lab closure. Microdose Lupron in 8/08.
7/23/08 - Conceived naturally! Beta 375 (14dpO)
7/26 - Beta 1635
8/13 - U/S. 1 bean, HB 133
9/17 - N.T., HB 155
11/13 - IT'S A BOY! DUE 4/1/09
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Old 05-01-2008, 09:27 PM
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I'm a little worried that I've been doing it all wrong since I have been mixing it with a little bit of pretty warm water for the last month or so.

Carie~It is so great to hear you have had so much improvement in your follicles by using royal jelly. I have DOR and really hope it works for me too. Congrats on your BFP. I saw in your signature you are using instead cups?? What is that for, if I can ask?
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6 IUI's

IVF #1 10/08 chemical preg
IVF #2 5/09 DE/DS in Czech Republic chemical preg
IVF #3 8/09 Going back to Czech Republic We're not giving up yet
8/13 ER
8/18 ET 3 grade 1 blasts
8/25 + HPT
8/27 (9dp5dt) beta 252
8/31 (13dp5dt) beta 1856
9/4 (17dp5dt) beta 8984
9/14 u/s 2 sacs and 2 heartbeats. Baby A measuring 6w2d. Baby B measures 6w5d. TWINS!!
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Thank you so much for this information I wish the store was open now I want to start asap.
I am also looking for an acupuncturer also.
I am going to buy the book too. I need to try anything I can to improve my eggies..
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Old 05-02-2008, 03:49 AM
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Thanks!! I'm still "cautiously optimistic" ...I'll believe it and feel better about it when I see my beta double (because of the ectopic before). I'm chalking this up to the first hurdle being leaped over I did 2 more POAS this AM and both BFP. So, I'm keeping my fingers

Deanna...check out this post...I explain what I did with the Instead Soft Cups
http://forums.fertilitycommunity.com...-new-post.html

Also, about the RJ/BP...from what I've read you get the best results when taking BOTH together. I didn't want to mess with counting out granules of bee pollen and read on other boards that the jelly tasted funky so I went with the combo in honey...and it's organic too.

Since hopeful2b and I got BFP taking the same stuff (there are hundreds of variations out there)...I'm thinking this combo works! I got it at the Vitamin Shoppe.

Also, I had DS (my donor) taking it too. He didn't need to, but I wanted him supercharged (he's one of my best friends and said he was just humoring me . There was a huge difference in volume.

More info about Royal Jelly:
Y.S. Organic Bee Farms - Royal Jelly

More info about Bee Pollen:
Nature's Most Nutritious Super-food

Bee Pollen has been shown to:

- Restore and rejuvenate tired or ageing sex glands in both male and female. This is because it contains natural hormonal substances that stimulate and nourish the reproductive system.
- Improve sexual dysfunction caused by prostatic disorders
- Stimulate ovarian function and increase the biological value of the egg
- Alleviate symptoms associated with PMS

Good Luck Ladies!! Keep us posted with your results on this thread!
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Me - 35 = Poor egg quality/DOR/Poor Stimmer/High CD3 FSH and Estrogen (bla...bla...bla)
DH - 36 = Low & slow
TTC >3 years
Kitchen Sink Info:
#1 IVF/ICSI & AH = BFN
#2 IVF/ICSI & Thyroid meds = BFP (Ectopic)
#3 IVF/ICSI & Metformin 03/07 = BUST
02/02/08 = Started taking Royal Jelly & Bee Pollen in honey (it worked for me!!)
03/03/08 = 100 mg Clomid w/ DS (PreSeed+Instead Cups) = BFN
04/02/08 = 100 mg Clomid w/ DS (PreSeed+Instead Cups) = BFP
1st Beta --> 05/02/08 = 232 (15dpo)
2nd Beta --> 05/05/08 = 846
3rd Beta --> 05/07/08 = 1874
U/S --> 05/13/08 = (5w6d) Saw heartbeat/got pictures

U/S --> 05/22/08 = (7w1d) Heard heartbeat/141 bpm (measure 7w)
U/S --> 06/02/08 = (8w5d) Saw baby moving arms and legs/179 bpm (measure 8w5d)
Anatomy Scan --> 08/20/08 (20w) It's a BOY!!
Delivered at 38wk6d = 7lb 9oz 20 1/2in


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Old 05-02-2008, 08:18 AM
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I'm so glad this thread was started. I went out last night after I read about Carie and Hopeful2bmom's success. That one you mentioned, Carie, is not bad like the one I was taking. I can take it by the spoonful and not gag. Thanks so much and hope to hear high beta numbers from you today.
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DS- 16 from prior marriage
6 IUI's

IVF #1 10/08 chemical preg
IVF #2 5/09 DE/DS in Czech Republic chemical preg
IVF #3 8/09 Going back to Czech Republic We're not giving up yet
8/13 ER
8/18 ET 3 grade 1 blasts
8/25 + HPT
8/27 (9dp5dt) beta 252
8/31 (13dp5dt) beta 1856
9/4 (17dp5dt) beta 8984
9/14 u/s 2 sacs and 2 heartbeats. Baby A measuring 6w2d. Baby B measures 6w5d. TWINS!!
9/28 Both babies lookin good with strong heartbeats.
10/23 NT scan

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Old 05-02-2008, 10:22 AM
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Thanks for starting this thread ladies.

I am also very interested in trying this, but was nervous about ordering off the internet, and since I live in a small town, I don't think I'll find it around here.

So Carie - the web-site you gave the link to is the one you used, and had no problems with them or using your credit card, etc etc??? Using the teaspoon 2x's a day, how quickly did you go through a jar? Should I order 2?


Thanks so much in advance!
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July 26th - start stims-follistim and menopur
August 6th - ER
August 11th - ET (2 blasts)
August 25th - BETA is in at 2700
8/27 - Beta #2 is 7000
9/8 - 1st US - It's twins
12/1 - Gender Scan - 2 BOYS!


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