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Old 09-02-2008, 05:16 PM
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Unhappy Betas all outta whack! I need help!

I am in desperate need of feedback here. Heres the quick story. My first and second beta were normal (39 and 169). After that, they were not doubling so I was told it was an impending m/c or ectopic. Went in last Thursday and we were greatful that my Beta dropped from 381 to 210, and they thought they saw something very small in my uterus. Thought I would start bleeding this weekend, but did not. Went in today for bloodwork and my Beta shot up to 681. I am suppose to go in again tomorrow for more blood and another u/s. They don't really know what to saw...for some reason the placenta is still growing.

Has this happened to anyone? I am at 6 weeks, so my Beta should be much higher than it is. Please share any stories that relate to this, I could use anything right now. I'm just so frustrated, ready to get this over with but it has been lingering for 2 weeks now.
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TTC 16 months
28 (unexplained infertility)
DH 29 (Perfect little swimmers!)
2 Dogs (Lelu and Kenna) + 1 Cat (Killian)
8/07 Diagnosed with Hashimoto's Thyroditis
9/07-11/07: 3 cycles of Clomid (did not work)
1/18: Began accupuncture
2/15: Progesterone at 21.6
3/15: My first appt with RE (normal ultrasound)
3/28: First HSG Test - Tubes All Clear!!!!
4/1: First planned IUI
4/7: Progesterone > 20 Good sign!!!
4/16:
Natural from April to July
Aug 15th: Natural Conception!!!!
Aug 15th: Beta 69
Aug 18th: Beta 169
Aug 20th: Beta 199
Aug 22nd: Beta 211, suspected ectopic
Sep 4th: Methotrexate shot given
Sept 8th: Tube Ruptured, Emergency Surgery. Saved left tube.
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Old 09-02-2008, 05:29 PM
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No experience but just wanted to wish you the best! Hugs to you!
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Me: 29, perfect
DH: 37, antisperm antibodies
TTC x almost 3 years
09/09/07 iui w/ clomid (7 mill. sperm, 5 follies)
10/15/07 start meds (BCP, Lupron, Menopur, Gonal F)
11/27/07 ET 2 blasts, 2 frozen - chemical pregnancy
02/14/08 started meds (BCP, Lupron, Menopur, Lovenox, ASA)
04/02/08 Barbados!
04/09/08 ER 5 follies, 4 eggs
04/10/08 all 4 fertilized
4/12/08 3dt 1-8cell, 1-7cell, 2 frozen (6 & 4cell)
4/19/08 POAS
04/22/08 beta 235 Praise God!!
04/24/08 2nd beta :531
05/14/08 7 week u/s TWINS!! Heartbeats 139 & 150
05/27/08 9 week u/s - hbs 158 for both
06/11/08 11 week u/s hbts 162 for both
All scans are showing a little boy and a little girl



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Old 09-02-2008, 05:59 PM
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you need to go back in for another u/s. the day before my ectopic ruptured, I was in the ER and they thought they 'saw something' in my uterus. Turns out it was a spot of blood or something. And my beta was in the 3000s. You really can't see much at where your beta currently is, or was. It very well still could be ectopic. If your Dr is 100% sure this is not a viable pregnancy, has he/she mentioned methotrexate to terminate it?
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DH: 33 Perfect
Etienne , Jake , Sam (cats) Maggie (iguana)
TTC #1: 2 yrs
2 m/c (Aug '06 and Jan '07), 1 ectopic pg (lost left tube)

5 IUI's

5/27: beta #1: 716!!!! (17dpo) Natural cycle!
5/29: beta #2: 1885!!!!
6/1: early u/s-1 sac/yolk
6/9: u/s#2-saw and heard hb! 114 bpm. Measuring 6w2d
6/17: u/s #3- hb 154 bpm. Measuring 7w3d
7/1: u/s #4- hb 161 bpm. Measuring 9w4d
7/9: first OB appt.-u/s #5- hb 152 bpm. Measuring 10w4d
7/17-NT scan-everything looks great! Measuring 11w6d
8/14-quad screen (quick gender check):
IT'S A BOY!!!
9/4- Level II u/s. Baby is doing great! Measuring 5 days ahead.





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Old 09-02-2008, 06:18 PM
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I don't have any personal experience, but I second Jencat.
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Me - 36: everything normal
DH - 39: low motility, low morphology

TTC for 2.5 years
2007: Tried Clomid for 3 cycles, all BFN
9/11/07: DH diagnosed by RE

IUI #1:
1/18: Began Bravelle shots for 9 days
1/28: IUI; 2 follies 2/8: ; u/s found cysts
IUI #2: Converted to B2B IUIs
3/18: Baseline U/S. 3/19 -21: 3 Bravelle (225 mg)
3/22-24: 2 Bravelle (150 mg); u/s shows 4 follies (R and L). 3/25: Novarel (10,000 USP) shot
3/26: IUI (still 4 follies there: 20 - 22) 3/27: IUI
4/6: 4/7: u/s found cysts; BCPs (Loestrin). 4/28: u/s showed I am cyst free. 5/3: 5/5: BCPs (Loestrin). 5/31: Bravelle 4*75, Lupron 0.1

June 08: IVF/ICSI
ER: 6/10
ET: 6/10 (ZIFT 2 embabies), 6/12 (regular 1 2-cell)
6/24: Beta #1 83, 6/26: Beta #2 232, 7/3: Beta #3 1,500;7/7: U/S #1 One sac ; 7/17: U/S shows heartbeat but small sac; 7/24: U/S no heartbeat; 7/25: D&C at 8 weeks

10/02: auto-inumne testing NORMAL.

Praying for a miracle!

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Old 09-02-2008, 06:32 PM
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Sorry I have nothing to add by way of advice, but I'm sending you hugs. I know this 'limbo' can be worse than getting a clear BFN. I feel for you and I hope you find resolution soon!
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Me 35/DH 40
TTC 4 yrs
DH dx - 6% morphology & 29% DNA Fragmentation in sperm
My dx - low egg quality/FSH 12 on Day 10
6 months clomid, 1 IUI: BFNs
#1 IVF Fresh May '06: anembryonic preg/blighted ovum #2 IVF Fresh Oct '06: chem preg #3 IVF FET Dec '06: BFN #4 IVF Fresh Jan '07: BFN
#5 IVF Donor Egg Cycle
Donor ER Feb 17 - 15 eggs, 14 mature, 10 fertilized through ICSI
ET Feb 22 - Day 5 transferred 1 blast - froze 4 blasts
1st beta 13dpER = 181 2nd beta 15dpER = 474
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IT'S A GIRL!!!
Due Date: November 8
Delivered: October 25 at 7:45pm, 7lb11oz, 19in
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Old 09-02-2008, 07:01 PM
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Just sending you lots of. I am sorry I dont know either..
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me 42 -dor
dh 42 -perfect
3 dd-24y,15y,10y
1 ds -2y our little angel, Joey
its his strength that keeps me going
-SIDS-/SUDC


Starting IVF#1 w/ICSI w AH
6/25..... AF.....finally came
7/23 - ER
7/27 - ET 4
8/04 - faint line am --pm digital
8/05 Beta 33 (day early)
8/07 Beta #2 - 92.5 prog 15.6
8/13 Beta #3 - 1058. prog. 30.6/Est. 596
8/16 - bleeding - stopped
8/17 u/s -1 sac- 2 grains of rice
8/20 Beta u/s - IDENTICAL TWINS. OMG
BETA - 15K
8/29 -u/s -2 hbs
9/2 - check levels
9/9- 1st interview with ob & check level w/ RE
NO More PIO shots....
9/30- OB
10/07- Peri appt. nt scan
10/21 - OB
11/6 - Peri - amino
11/18 - OB
12/5 - Peri - level 11 scan
12/15- OB


THANK YOU LORD FOR YOUR SPECIAL DOUBLE BLESSING.


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Old 09-02-2008, 07:47 PM
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I agree with Jen. My first beta and 2nd betas were also normal-ish.. 90 and 201.. but pretty low for 21 and 23 dpo. 4 days later it was only up to like 265 and the u/s showed nothing in my uterus so I was scheduled for a D&C. 3-4 days after the D&C my beta was up to 400-something but since it had been several days since the last draw, they couldn't be certain that it hadn't gone up and was now on the way back down. 2 days later it was up over 1000 and I went in the same day for a methotrexate shot. I was lucky that mine was taken care of before it had a chance to rupture. Since your doctor has already determined that this is not a viable pregnancy, it would seem a sound decision to administer the methotrexate. I'm so very sorry you're going through this.
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DH (James): 29 - Slightly low morphology

TTC 3+ years; 1st year and a half wasted with a worthless doctor

2007
2 failed Clomid cycles
Ectopic pregnancy

2008
3/5 - new cycle - Clomid and Follistim
3/31 - positive hpt
4/2 - 1st beta - 48.5! Estrogen 324, Progesterone 35.9
4/4 - 2nd beta - 113.8!
4/7 - 3rd beta - 487!!
4/11 - 4th beta - 2987
4/16 - 1st u/s - 1 beautiful healthy peanut in exactly the right place!
4/23 - 2nd u/s - everything still great. Saw and heard the heartbeat! 122bpm!
5/6 - 3rd u/s- Absolutely amazing. Measuring 8w6d, 172bpm; released to OB
6/4 - Everything is still perfect. Measuring right on track, hb 161bpm
6/26 - Couldn't be better; 148bpm
7/21 - Anatomy Scan!! It's a GIRL!
11/26 - Kathryn Lakhari Ann born at 38w1d due to pre-eclampsia! 8lb 4oz, 20 1/2" long



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Old 09-02-2008, 08:17 PM
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Yes, the plan is to have the shot tomorrow or Thursday. I am so dissapointed since Thursday my numbers went down so it was promising that it was not ectopic. Now that scenario has reared it's ugly head. It is promising to see that you had natural pregnancy after an ectopic! That is my biggest concern...what our future will hold with chances of conceiving if it is. IVF is not an option for us.
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TTC 16 months
28 (unexplained infertility)
DH 29 (Perfect little swimmers!)
2 Dogs (Lelu and Kenna) + 1 Cat (Killian)
8/07 Diagnosed with Hashimoto's Thyroditis
9/07-11/07: 3 cycles of Clomid (did not work)
1/18: Began accupuncture
2/15: Progesterone at 21.6
3/15: My first appt with RE (normal ultrasound)
3/28: First HSG Test - Tubes All Clear!!!!
4/1: First planned IUI
4/7: Progesterone > 20 Good sign!!!
4/16:
Natural from April to July
Aug 15th: Natural Conception!!!!
Aug 15th: Beta 69
Aug 18th: Beta 169
Aug 20th: Beta 199
Aug 22nd: Beta 211, suspected ectopic
Sep 4th: Methotrexate shot given
Sept 8th: Tube Ruptured, Emergency Surgery. Saved left tube.
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Old 09-02-2008, 08:26 PM
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natural conception after ectopic here. there is hope.

if you are going to do the methotrexate shot, make sure you stop taking your prenatal vitamin and any extra folic acid you may be taking as it can interfere with the shot. and please make sure your clinic monitors you after. I had the shot, then my ectopic ruptured the next day. If I can protect someone from having to go through what I had gone though...

I am so sorry you had to go through this roller coaster. My RE told me to wait 6 weeks before TTC after shot (which was 2 cycles for me). Some may say 3 cycles (the metho goes out of your system by 6 weeks though. I had an HSG done after the ectopic to make sure my other tube was open. I would recommend it to rule out tubal damage.

THinking about you...
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Me: 35 MTHFR hetero, no other issues
DH: 33 Perfect
Etienne , Jake , Sam (cats) Maggie (iguana)
TTC #1: 2 yrs
2 m/c (Aug '06 and Jan '07), 1 ectopic pg (lost left tube)

5 IUI's

5/27: beta #1: 716!!!! (17dpo) Natural cycle!
5/29: beta #2: 1885!!!!
6/1: early u/s-1 sac/yolk
6/9: u/s#2-saw and heard hb! 114 bpm. Measuring 6w2d
6/17: u/s #3- hb 154 bpm. Measuring 7w3d
7/1: u/s #4- hb 161 bpm. Measuring 9w4d
7/9: first OB appt.-u/s #5- hb 152 bpm. Measuring 10w4d
7/17-NT scan-everything looks great! Measuring 11w6d
8/14-quad screen (quick gender check):
IT'S A BOY!!!
9/4- Level II u/s. Baby is doing great! Measuring 5 days ahead.





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Old 09-02-2008, 08:40 PM
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Oh no! The HSG test! I thought I was done with that...most painful experience of my life. It will be worth the pain...just keep looking at the end goal.

We are having a consult with our RE in a few weeks to determine the best course of action. His intial thought was to go back to the method that got us here (which was natural). I don't think he realized that was how we got preggers because he looked suprised. Maybe he was looking for some extra dollars we would spend on IUIs (ha! only kidding)

I am just ready to move on from this and start trying again. What are your thoughts on going back to natural or IUI? Did you doctor have any concerns since you had an ectopic? I know your chances become less if you have one, but you are definitely an inspiration to me. Thanks for sharing.
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TTC 16 months
28 (unexplained infertility)
DH 29 (Perfect little swimmers!)
2 Dogs (Lelu and Kenna) + 1 Cat (Killian)
8/07 Diagnosed with Hashimoto's Thyroditis
9/07-11/07: 3 cycles of Clomid (did not work)
1/18: Began accupuncture
2/15: Progesterone at 21.6
3/15: My first appt with RE (normal ultrasound)
3/28: First HSG Test - Tubes All Clear!!!!
4/1: First planned IUI
4/7: Progesterone > 20 Good sign!!!
4/16:
Natural from April to July
Aug 15th: Natural Conception!!!!
Aug 15th: Beta 69
Aug 18th: Beta 169
Aug 20th: Beta 199
Aug 22nd: Beta 211, suspected ectopic
Sep 4th: Methotrexate shot given
Sept 8th: Tube Ruptured, Emergency Surgery. Saved left tube.
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